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 Limping with Aces!, Roy Cooke, 18. Oct 2003 09:14 | ||
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| I believe it is correct to limp with aces in certain situations. You must believe you will get almost no action if you raise....The blinds must be tight and you must believe you will get action created for you by playing it deceptively. If you will get called anyway (True most of the time) you should go ahead and raise. Life is Good :-) Roy Cooke | ||
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| Re: Limping with Aces!, Schuster, 18. Oct 2003 16:20 | ||
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| As a follow up thought, if you do limp with aces early and someone else raises, what considerations would you take when deciding to reraise? Is the extra bet in before the flop worth the lack of deception when you are out of position? Would you be more inclined to make the raise against one player or a larger field? Of course, if the game is that tight, a large field is unlikely. How often do you limp reraise with other hands? Should you just always reraise since the original raiser isn't going to fold? If I'm in a game this tight, I'm looking for another game. It just doesn't happen very often at the 3/6 tables. As a result, I have had very little experience with this sort of thing, so I'm interested to hear what others think. Lee | ||
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| Re: Limping with Aces!, Candide, 20. Oct 2003 08:48 | ||
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| One the rare occasions I don't raise with AA, and someone raises after me, it falls into the "it depends" bucket. The times I am more likely to reraise is if the raiser is not far to my left, and he gets several callers. Also, if he only gets maybe 1 caller. The times I might just call are if he is close to my right, and I think that making it 3 bets will surely cause people to my left to muck. Again, if there aren't that many people left in to act, then I will reraise. It all kind of depends on the number of people yet to do something...Lots of people who are already called to the current bet/raise I re raise...Few people in the pot, I reraise. Lots of people who have not had a chance to act, I MIGHT limp. This comming from a relative newbie, so take it for what it is worth :) on 18. Oct 2003 16:20 Schuster wrote: > As a follow up thought, if you do limp with aces early and someone else raises, what > considerations would you take when deciding to reraise? Is the extra bet in before > the flop worth the lack of deception when you are out of position? Would you be more > inclined to make the raise against one player or a larger field? Of course, if the > game is that tight, a large field is unlikely. How often do you limp reraise with > other hands? Should you just always reraise since the original raiser isn't going to > fold? If I'm in a game this tight, I'm looking for another game. It just doesn't > happen very often at the 3/6 tables. As a result, I have had very little experience > with this sort of thing, so I'm interested to hear what others think. > > Lee | ||
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| Re: Limping with Aces!, Barry T, 18. Oct 2003 16:58 | ||
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| Hi. I should make a separate thread of this hand, but here goes: I was once asked what I would do if I held aces UTG and I knew if I raised there was a greater than 80% chance that I would only win the blinds. I replied that I wouild raise with the aces, and I would also raise every time I was UTG with any hand until the opponents stopped giving up so easily. (In rebuttal, a prominent author told me what I shouild really do it raise with every hand except aces, and just limp with the aces.) Not me. My motto is play big hand s like big hands and sometimes play small hands like big hands. I try to never (well...hardly ever) play big hands like small hands. BarryT | ||
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| Re: Limping with Aces!, Roy Cooke, 18. Oct 2003 17:07 | ||
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| What do mottos have to do with playing poker? Sometimes it is correct to play big hands like small hands. I agree with the prominent author! I limp with the two aces! Life is Good :-) Roy Cooke on 18. Oct 2003 16:58 Barry T wrote: > Hi. I should make a separate thread of this hand, but here goes: > I was once asked what I would do if I held aces UTG and I knew if I raised there was > a greater than 80% chance that I would only win the blinds. > > I replied that I wouild raise with the aces, and I would also raise every time I was > UTG with any hand until the opponents stopped giving up so easily. > > (In rebuttal, a prominent author told me what I shouild really do it raise with > every hand except aces, and just limp with the aces.) > > Not me. My motto is play big hand s like big hands and sometimes play small hands > like big hands. I try to never (well...hardly ever) play big hands like small > hands. > > BarryT > > | ||
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| Re: Limping with Aces!, Barry T, 18. Oct 2003 21:00 | ||
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| Hi, Mottos have everything to do about poker (that's my motto). Sheeesh. BarryT :-) | ||
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| Re: Limping with Aces!, Rolf Slotboom, 19. Oct 2003 06:10 | ||
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| Guys, I guess I am with Barry T. here. Because there are so many situations where you would play an average or a bit-above-average hand as if it were a great hand, I think that you should not do things differently when you are lucky enough to finally catch a big hand. If I'm one the button -holding aces-and they all fold to me, the fact that the blinds are so tight that they will almost always fold to my raise, would not be a reason for me to then just limp. Quite the contrary: I would raise to pick up the blinds and then maybe show my aces to keep them in their folding mode - so I will certainly get away with stealing some blinds and / or pots against them in the future. If people know that in some situations, you would play your very best hands deceptively (i.e., just limp with aces under certain circumstances), they might be less inclined to give you credit for a big hand when you try to represent one. Having said that, I agree that in some situations, just limping with aces does have some merit, but when looking at things from the big picture, and especially for less-than-expert players, I would say: don't mess around too often - raise with aces. Regards, Rolf. | ||
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