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 Did I play this badly?, Ingise_Eesti, 10. Oct 2003 07:02 | ||
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| Just played in a SNG on PS and I'd like to ask anyone out there what they think, should/ could I have played this differently? Dealt to IngliseEesti [Ad Jc] Seat 2: IngliseEesti (1280 in chips) Seat 3: Soccer17 (2990 in chips) *****: folds ****: folds ****: calls 50 player (name changed): raises 200 to 250 ****: folds ****: folds IngliseEesti: calls 200 *** FLOP *** [5c 9h Ac] IngliseEesti: bets 150 player: raises 150 to 300 IngliseEesti: calls 150 OK, right now I'm thinking maybe Soccer also has a big A, two pair or trips, I take my chances on an A and hope that I'm at least even with the kicker because I couldn't see any other reason to raise pre-flop (except for pocket pair). *** TURN *** [5c 9h Ac] [8h] IngliseEesti: bets 50 player: calls 50 Maybe I should have put in a bigger bet here (in fact I really think I should have but I couldn't predict what was gonna happen next) you'll see why in a minute. *** RIVER *** [5c 9h Ac 8h] [Ah] IngliseEesti: bets 100 ****: raises 300 to 400 IngliseEesti: calls 300 took a while to decide what to do here, but I called after reasoning that he/she can't possibly have a flush after raising me post-flop with an A on the board and only one heart (My 3rd A also being a heart) figured he/she had the other A. player: shows [Kh Qh] (a flush, Ace high) IngliseEesti: mucks hand Soccer17 collected 2075 from pot Oops, I was wrong.Flush time!! Is there any way I could have stopped this happening or was this just bad luck? It made me angry as hell, I need a strategy to stop this kind of thing happening. Please don't advise me on any books to buy though, as I've just been on amazon and ordered 10 of them!!! | ||
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| Re: Did I play this badly?, Ingise_Eesti, 10. Oct 2003 07:06 | ||
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| Sorry, did an awful job of changing the other person's name. Tired, confused at the hand and slightly annoyed. Perhaps, I shouldn't have even called a raise pre-flop with AJo and it would have saved me alot of chips. thoughts please. | ||
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| Re: Did I play this badly?, Eman, 10. Oct 2003 07:53 | ||
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| I think I would have played it differently. If I was going to play that hand, I would have definetly raised preflop. If he reraises a signifcant amount, Id fold. Lets say he does call your preflop raise, and checks to you after the flop, Id throw another big bet in. More than likely He would have tossed his hand. You had the best hand until the river. You can let people play to the river, unless you know for certain that youll have them beat. | ||
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| Re: Did I play this badly?, Schuster, 10. Oct 2003 12:10 | ||
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| I'm kinda confused. The early limper folded? And you called the 200 cold? Or were you the early limper and changed your own name to ****** for the call part? Are there only 6 at the table or 10? I'm guessing that you limped, got raised, and there are 6 at the table... if not, correct me and I'll go through it again. Anyway... if there's just 6 at the table, you don't want to be limping with a hand like AJo. Bring it in for a raise and see if you can't pickup the blinds. Your hand is strong shorthanded and you need to play it aggresively. Now once you've just limped, you can't be sure if he's raising because he has a real hand or because he saw your limp as weakness, and as a result, you really don't know how to play after the flop. If you had just raised, you'd have a better idea of where you stand and could play accordingly. Does this player raise a little loose when he sees weakness like this? Is he a tight player that only raises with premium hands? I may have just mucked the hand before the flop to avoid a situation where I don't know if my hand is good, like the one you got. AJo should generally be folded to a raise in no limit tournament games. Gap concept at work. Now, on the flop the pot is about 575 if I'm counting right and you bet out 150. This seems pretty low, I'd want to fire a good amount in there to let him know that I was serious. 300 or 350 would be good. After you do bet out 150 and he raises the minimum, you have to think about whether your hand is good and how you are going to play the turn if a blank comes. If you feel like your hand is good, playing back at him would not be a bad idea. He might be making this min raise to see if you were fooling around. I think calling is the worst thing you can do here, because you still won't know where you stand, and it gives him a chance to see a "free" card. If he is ahead with a bigger ace, you are drawing to 3 outs, but if you are ahead, you probably have him drawing pretty thin. On the turn, the pot is over 1000 and you bet a big 50. This bet is woefully low and really just screams weakness. You've committed a lot of your stack to this pot, and the problem is, you really don't know if your hand is good here, as a result of your earlier actions. It's really hard to tell you what to do on the turn because you really have no read. You might be best, and you might not be. Would you feel comfortable about going all in here? Your stack is probably around 600 now and the pot is huge, so if you're going to bet, you're committed to the pot the whole way, so you might as well just put them all in. Would you feel good about checking and calling a big bet from him or giving him a free card? He might bluff you off the pot where you put half your chips in. None of these are really appealing to me. I think the problem with this hand throughout is that you didn't act the aggressor, you simply reacted to your opponent, and that is usually a poor strategy in no limit games. You need to be playing your cards if you think your hand is best, and don't slow down until someone tells you they aren't. Good luck in future games Ingise! Lee | ||
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| Re: Did I play this badly?, Ingise_Eesti, 10. Oct 2003 21:22 | ||
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| Thanks for in depth analysis Lee. I've been running this hand through my head a hell of a lot over the past few hours and I can now answer my own question, it's a no-brainer, yes, I did play it badly. In fact I played it awfully. My betting strategy really is a weakness in my game (when I think I'm ahead at least),. I definately should have bet more post flop and if he was still around then all-in after the turn. I mean, if I was scared of being out-kicked I shouldn't have been in the pot at all. Truly awful play on my part. Thanks for the advice. | ||
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