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 Winning small pots, loosing big ones, Snorbolus, 9. Oct 2003 10:47 | ||
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| I have just had a run of 3 bad sessions, loosing around about 4 big bets per hour. So I am examining my game for leaks, more carefully than usual. One thing that I notice is that I seem to win small pots but loose big ones. This trend seems especially pronounced recently. I think one reason might be that I just haven't been making very many hands better than top pair. However, I wonder if another is that I play some of my good hands too fast on the flop. Obviously if the flop is coordinated (two to a flush or likely straight that I have no part of), I am going to play two pair or a set as fast as I can. But I have also tended to play these types of hand fast on uncoordinated flops too. I now wonder if that is a mistake? Would it be better to wait until the turn before I raise; if I think my opponents might call one bet on the flop with second pair, or any sort of a draw, but likely fold less than top pair or a reasonable draw to any sort of aggression on my part? I feel that I may also be loosing money with top pair good kicker. Again, I always play this fast on the flop but I am beginning to notice that often I either don't get called on the turn or that I get raised. The first time that I get raised like this I usually call and then pay off on the river. Another leak? Sorry for the long post. Any help greatly appreciated. Snorbolus | ||
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| Re: Winning small pots, loosing big ones, shorn, 9. Oct 2003 13:20 | ||
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| Snor- Seems like a lot of us on here are in a slump right now (me too...7 consecutive losing sessions). Anyway, I think the determining factor in whether or not to slowplay a hand on a coordinated flop is the # of opponents. If I only have 1 or 2 opponents, then I am more likely to allow a free card then with 3 + opponents. Sure, this will cost me the pot sometimes, but generally with that few opponents, it isn't the big pots that you will lose, so it isn't as big a deal. One thing to remember is that if you are playing good connected cards, then any two pair flop will automatically mean that there is a str8 draw out there, so playing fast is generally the right play. Unless your opponents can read you like a book, you are probably just in a run where no one has anything when you hit a good flop. This is frustrating, but certainly won't last forever. Also, you probably have had a run where you are first to act in all these small pots and therefore you don't have the chance to raise an initial bettor. This could easily end up costing you at least 1 BB per hour over this relatively short period. As far as the river calling, if the pot is big then you have to call in most situations. Don't risk losing 15-20 hours income to save that 1 bet. I know that you know this, but in terms of long-term expectation, that 1 bet means nothing. Hang in there and maybe re-read a few chapters in TTOP (Slowplaying, semi-bluffing). They will reinforce the fact that it is more likely that you are experiencing a bad run of cards/circumstances than you have a major leak. Good luck, Steve | ||
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| Re: Winning small pots, loosing big ones, PairTheBoard, 9. Oct 2003 13:21 | ||
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| It may have something to do with the observation in another thread that the games have been drying up lately. You get used to being in loose games with nofoldem types paying you off to the river with second and third best hands. Then, almost imperceptibly, the games change. You may not notice the higher frequency of folds preflop and/or postflop. Suddenly you only seem to get action when your opponents have better cards. When you're best the action evaporates and you win small pots with hands that we're raking big pots in better games. Finally when you do get action with such hands you end up discovering it's because you're beat. in such scenarios, marginal winners may not longer be able to beat the rake. Even if you are good enough to beat the game, it may hardly be worth your time. You must definitely be aware of where you're at and adjust your game accordingly. jmo | ||
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