|
||
|
||
|
Server Time: 12/1/2008 12:30:58 PM PACIFIC |
 Truly Awful NL HE Play, mroban, 8. Oct 2003 11:39 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| Slightly long message but bear with me. Here is an atrocious hand I played last night while on tilt. I am bringing this up to remind myself the dangers of playing on tilt. But feel free to skewer me any way. I was playing $25 NL HE on Party Poker and was having a dismal time of it. I basically had folded about 70 hands in a row (not really exaggerating here) and my $25 was blinded down to around $14.50 (I might have limped one or two hands preflop in the SB or button but thats about it). A little backround first to fully explain the tilt. Finally, I get dealt Ah3h one off the button and its passed to me. I make a 3x BB raise (blinds are .25/.50) for $1.50. Button folds and the SB and BB both call. The SB is a total fish but the BB is a very good player. The flop comes KAK (no hearts). SB and BB check, I know I have the SB beat (he bets when he has anything or nothing so a check means he has truly nothing) but am worried about the slowplay from the BB. He called my raise so he could easily be slowplaying AK or just trip Kings. So I decide (stupidly) to make a small bet of $1. SB calls (naturally) and the BB reraises $1.50. So I decide to fold. Turn is an 8. SB then checked, BB checked (damnit) and the river comes a 3 (wouldn't have helped though since the KK was on board). SB checks, BB raises $1, SB calls. SB had QJ (no big surprise) and BB had A4. I blew it because I should have just checked to see the turn for free rather than exposing myself to a re-raise with a gutless bet (that begged for a re-raise to be honest). Anyway, I am now steaming for blowing a hand that I could have won a nice split pot on (SB would have made the contribution for sure). Not so much because of that hand, but out of general frustration with the session as a whole (I had also played an hour of limit before that and didn't see a good hand to play in hour until I get KK cracked by 77 who called me down and made a set on the river). So here is the hand I played a couple of hands later: Im in the SB with Jc7c. Its passed to the button who limps, I limp and the BB checks. The flop comes AhTc8c. I decide this is the hand I will win! I am totally on tilt here. This was the best situation I had seen in 3 hours almost. And damnit, I am winning this hand (dumbass). I have a flush draw with a gutbuster straight so I figure at worst I am a slight underdog and possibly a slight favorite. So I make a bet of $1.50 to see where I am at. Button calls. I am 100% sure he has an ace but he limped in (I didn't really have a good read on him, he was only in the game for about 5 minutes). The turn is a 5s now giving me an open ended straight to go with my flush draw. 17 outs! I am down to my last $12 or so and I go allin, figuring he might fold and I could win it here or hit my draw which clearly would be a winner. Of course he calls. River is a 7. He had AQ. Absolutely moronic play. I know I had a lot of outs, but neither were a draw to the nuts. I could easily have had AcXc too. This was as stupid a play as I have made in a while, so let me have it. | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| Re: Truly Awful NL HE Play, shorn, 8. Oct 2003 11:57 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| Yeah, that wasn't so good. But, if he was drawing, he could have folded his hand. I think checking the turn was the better play because he likely would have only bet an amount that made it worth calling with 17 outs (since you only need about 1.7 to 1 to make the call worthwhile and that doesn't even take into account any implied odds of him calling a river bet if you hit). It happens to all of us. Just be happy you were playing the $25 table and not the $100. :) | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| Re: Truly Awful NL HE Play, mroban, 8. Oct 2003 12:12 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| For sure Steve. I think I am smart enough to stay small when playing on tilt (but not smart enough to walk away). Cards have been frigid cold for me lately in ring play. Just frigid. | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| Re: Truly Awful NL HE Play, mroban, 8. Oct 2003 12:17 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| I agree that he probably would have folded if on a draw, but not with Axc because he would also have top pair (turned out he only had AQ). Btw, not sure he made such a great play calling (even though he made the right play). Calling allin bets with an AQ with only a pair is not a great play (I could easily have had AK or AT). But since I didn't raise his limp preflop, he probably correctly put me on a draw instead of AK (he didn't have the Ac so I could have easily also had AcXc). But my play was so bad its not worth commenting on whether he made a good decision or not (in the long run, obviously he made the correct short run decision). I also hadn't played a hand in an hour (and he was new to the game) so its not like anybody could consider me a loose player (anyone paying attention probably would have folded thinking I was ridiculously tight). TILT | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| Re: Truly Awful NL HE Play, cellardoor_sf, 8. Oct 2003 19:31 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| Doesn't the 5 on the turn still leave you with a gutshot straight (you need a 9 for the str8) draw and 12 outs on the river? You would probably still be correct in calling a small bet to see the river. | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| Re: Truly Awful NL HE Play, mroban, 9. Oct 2003 07:40 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| Yes, I stand corrected. The 6 would not have made a straight. 12 outs on the river. | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| Re: Truly Awful NL HE Play, mroban, 9. Oct 2003 07:43 | ||
| View ( Message | Thread ) | Return to Thread List | |
| but calling a bet to see the river is quite different than an allin play, yes? In general, in NL I will not call down and prefer to raise to try and win a pot without having to pick up the draw. This gives me two ways to win. Its just more expensive when you get called and miss. But there are better hands and spots to try it in than this one. In retrospect, I knew this guy was not going to fold. I actually had that read on him (just a gut feeling really since he was new to the game but I could tell the way he played the hand he was going to play that ace down). I was hoping he would fold of course, but didn't really think he was going to. I was really just gambling on tilt trying to win a big pot (almost worked, but it was a bad play). | ||
| Return to Thread List | ||
| POKER FORUM HOME | POKER FORUM | LINK TO US | ARCHIVE | ONLINE POKER | Copyright 2002, United Poker Forum |
|
Getting Started |
UPF Tournaments |
Poker News, Views, Rules |
Poker Strategy & Psychology |
Money and Bankroll Poker Bonuses & Promotions | World Series of Poker (WSOP) | Play Online Poker | Poker Odds & Statistics | Tournament Poker | Poker Books, Videos & Learning Tools Looking for a Poker Game | Poker Bad Beats | Not Quite Poker | Quizzes and Polls | Forum Suggestions & Bugs |
|
|
|
|
Interesting Links: Online Poker | Free Poker Games | United Poker Network |
|