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 surviving shorthanded, cellardoor_sf, 8. Oct 2003 01:51 | ||
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| Hi UPFers! First off, thanks to all the knowlegable and friendly experienced players who are willing to answer queries from beginning players like myself. I have learned quite a bit from this forum. My question involves what kind of mindset/approach to take when you've played good poker in a tournament, but find yourself rather short stacked in the last 2-3 tables, which have become shorthanded because of people getting busted out. The situation I found myself in was a 10+1 tournament I played on the internet earlier this week with 239 entrants. With 30 people left, I had a medium stack a little short of the "average" at the time. I had been playing tight, waiting for good hands to play. When it got down to 11 people, I had the smallest stack on my table of 6, and the blinds were coming around fast and furious. At this point I felt I had to make something happen and got busted out playing Q-J suited, chasing a flush draw--turns out I was drawing dead against A-7 suited. Anyway, I felt frustrated about going bust one shy of the final table, and I was wondering if there are strategies that I can apply to a similar situation in the future. Should I take more risks right before the money, thinking that players on the bubble will tighten up? Or should I keep playing tight and hope that a big stack tries to make a play on me when I'm holding something big? | ||
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| Re: surviving shorthanded, WilliamS, 8. Oct 2003 06:16 | ||
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| Cellar, Take everything I say with a grain of salt because I don't know jack. But the philosophy I've taken with a short stack in multi-table and sitngo tourneys is ultra aggressive. I try not to play drawing hands like suited connectors except AK or possibly KQ. I look for pairs and then move in. This does a couple of things: 1) It keeps the big stacks off of you. Because they know you are willing to put all your chips in; therefore they can't push you off a hand. If they bet into you it is usually with a legitimate holding (if they are paying attention) 2) It gives you an opportunity to build your stack by your opponent folding or a chance to double up in a coin flip situation (i.e. 88 against AK) All this being said, I think it is crucial to make moves before your stack gets blinded down to the "point of no return". What I mean is I would like to get my chips in the middle (even if I'm an underdog) while I have enough chips to be in contention if I double up. Not necessarily among the leaders but with enough chips I can stand to see a flop and be able to make decisions without being forced by stack size. Anywhoo, right or wrong, thats my take Will | ||
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| Re: surviving shorthanded, Pedro, 8. Oct 2003 06:41 | ||
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| Basically when shorthanded any pair is good and any ace is good. Try to steal blinds with those type of hands. If you get called you still have a chance of your hand hitting and winning. But if your running low on chips you got to make your moves when you can. You have to steal some blinds. Also the chances of someone having a better ace then you in a 6 handed game is rather slim. I still wouldn't make the move from an early position unless I was about to go into my blinds and It would leave me with almost no chips. Once the blinds become big unless you are a chip leader I wouldn't see the suited connected hands anymore cause they seem to cause trouble even when they hit. Maybe I just have bad luck :). Anyways good luck and make sure you get your chips in when they can make a difference. | ||
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| Re: surviving shorthanded, Jav, 8. Oct 2003 11:23 | ||
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| You need to go all-in when you do play a hand, and you need to lower your requirements for what a good hand is. But you still can't ingore the gap concept. You don't want to put all your chips into a pot that has been bet into unless you have a premium holding. IE, if you're in middle position with A,T and noone has limped or raised yet, then you should probably go all-in. But if there is a raise in front of you, you still need to throw the hand away. Look for opportunities to be the first in the pot (hopefully with only a few players left to act), and then push it all-in. I look for hands like any pair, any suited Ace, etc. I don't like to go all-in with things like A,6o unless I am in late position. | ||
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| Re: surviving shorthanded, cellardoor_sf, 8. Oct 2003 17:21 | ||
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| Yes, I think all of responses are correct and after thinking about my play in the final 20, I was being too passive and patient. I need to get better at adjusting to the different situations I may face in a tourney and play the style which will benefit me the most given the circumstances. The point about moving in with A-anything from mid to late position is something I wouldn't usually think about but 6 handed it can steal me the blinds or even double meup if I had gotten lucky, and I remember folding A-10 and K-J and thinking that it would be better to play with higher kickers.. Hindsight is 20.20. | ||
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