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 Double Standard, DRich, 3. Oct 2003 11:21 | ||
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| In a recent article in Card Player magazine they brought up the topic of taking money off of the table during a game. I believe that at most casinos this practice is not allowed except when you are tipping the dealer. Isn't this a double standard? I personally don't agree with the rule, but why make exceptions for tipping? | ||
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| Re: Double Standard, Brent, 3. Oct 2003 11:29 | ||
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| I agree, I believe it is your money and you should be able to take it off the table whenever you want. My opinion can be changed if someone explains a good enough reason why the rule exists. Brent | ||
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| Re: Double Standard, gary ford, 3. Oct 2003 12:09 | ||
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| on 3. Oct 2003 11:29 Brent wrote: > I agree, I believe it is your money and you should be able to take it off the table > whenever you want. My opinion can be changed if someone explains a good enough > reason why the rule exists. > > Brent The casino wants to keep the money in play . They feel once its in your pocket, it may not come back out. The players want the chance to "get their money back ", even though its no longer their money. Logically, as long as you have the minimum buy-in on the table you are qualified to play.. Passing chips to other players is a no-no but handing some to your wife when she taps out, while frowned upon , is seldom prohibited. assuming she is not at the table. This is the general West Coast rule, yes Nevada is on the West Coast, even before California falls in the ocean. One caveat--every casino is different --you have social casinos and hard nose casinos. ---Stay away from the hard nose--they haven't learned customer service yet, and may never. | ||
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| Re: Double Standard, WilliamS, 3. Oct 2003 12:57 | ||
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| Brent, Lets say, for example, I win a 300 dollar pot off of you on a given hand. I subsequently take that money off the table leaving only 75 dollars to play the next hand. You pick up AA and I pick up KK. We raise each other back and forth until I go all in for my 75 bucks. Your Aces hold up, leaving you a winner on this hand but still 225 bucks down to me because I cashed down. I think, generally speaking, this is an example of why players aren't allowed to take money off the table. If a player is going to stay and play and have a chance to win money he shouldn't be able to go "all in" without having risked money he has "won" that session. I'm not really impressed with my writing, but hopefully you get my point Will | ||
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| Re: Double Standard, 4 POKER, 3. Oct 2003 14:35 | ||
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| on 3. Oct 2003 12:57 WilliamS wrote: > Brent, > Lets say, for example, I win a 300 dollar pot off of you on a given hand. I subsequently > take that money off the table leaving only 75 dollars to play the next hand. You pick up > AA and I pick up KK. We raise each other back and forth until I go all in for my 75 > bucks. Your Aces hold up, leaving you a winner on this hand but still 225 bucks down to me > because I cashed down. > I think, generally speaking, this is an example of why players aren't allowed to take > money off the table. If a player is going to stay and play and have a chance to win money > he shouldn't be able to go "all in" without having risked money he has "won" that session. > > I'm not really impressed with my writing, but hopefully you get my point > Will That's exactly the main reason William......'good explanation, too. The reason why they don't argue about players taking money from their stack to tip the dealers with, is because it's such a very small % of what they have in front of them. It's not like taking $100 or $200 off of the table at one time. That would be unfair as for the reason that William had covered. 4P- | ||
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| Re: Double Standard, Brian462, 3. Oct 2003 15:00 | ||
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| It could go either way here though. Suppose on that hand that the player who cashed out would have won. He would take only $75 from the player with $225, costing himself $150. Since you are not allowed to bring money into the table during a hand there is no advantage to taking money off of the table. It is purely a personal decision and the only reason it is still a rule is because it benefits the casinos. Had it no impact on the casinos, it would not be a rule. Simple as that. | ||
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| Re: Double Standard, benlessard, 3. Oct 2003 20:17 | ||
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| imho the main reason to forbid cashing some chips is positional issue. Im sure ill get a nice edge if every time im UTG or early my stack is reduced while in other position i have a full stack. Ben | ||
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| Re: Double Standard, Angel, 3. Oct 2003 20:21 | ||
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| "I took chips off before the hand started!" "No you didn't!" "Yes I did!" "NO YOU DIDN'T!!" "YES I DID!!" "FLOORMAN!!!!!!!!" Game stops/drop stops | ||
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| Re: Double Standard, Brian462, 3. Oct 2003 20:58 | ||
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| If that were the reason I think they would make a rule against just THAT instead. | ||
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| Re: Double Standard, Risky Business, 3. Oct 2003 11:59 | ||
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| Keep your ears perked up for a request to cash in chips. I've been in a game where they were running low on $1 chips, so I quickly took a rack over. A dealer actually told me I wasn't allowed to do it too. I just chirped back with a confusing remark and quickly sat back down with my bills. on 3. Oct 2003 11:21 DRich wrote: > In a recent article in Card Player magazine they brought up the topic of taking > money off of the table during a game. I believe that at most casinos this > practice is not allowed except when you are tipping the dealer. Isn't this a > double standard? > > I personally don't agree with the rule, but why make exceptions for tipping? > | ||
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