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 My Tournament Play, Mark, 3. Oct 2003 08:38 | ||
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| Hi all I played in an online limit hold'em tournament yesterday and wanted to see what you all thought of these hands i played. $20 +2 buy in, 129 players top 5 get paid. Everyone starts with T800. Limits start at 15-30 and increase every 15 min. I generally played very tight, folding many hands. Early on i built an above average stack. I get 64o in the SB. 6 limpers around to me. I have about T1800 and it is T25 more for me to call. I called as did the BB. was i right to? I figured to be getting a good price, even with this garbage hand. Also, i had been very tight to this point so if i did hit a hand it would be very hidden. The blinds were about to increase again and I thought there might also be some advertising value. (i ended up with the nut str8 and took in a big pot. My holding really did surprise my opponents) two levels later (200-400) i pick up QQ in mp. UTG raises. (he is tight aggressive for the table, but a little loose by my standards. UTG i expect him to have a good hand, but not necessarily great.) I 3-bet and he calls. I put him on AK, AQ,10-10 or JJ with a remote possibility of slowplaying wired aces. Flop 5 7, 10 rainbow. he checks, i bet, he calls. Turn is another 5. check, i bet, call. River is a king, he bets! Can i call his bet? AK looks like a strong possibility at this point. The bet is 400 and i have 1400 left. Limits are up to 1000-2000 my table has just become 7 handed. I have 2700 left and am utg. I pick up K9s and start to think of Sklansky, "don't make despartation bets." I open raise. Should i have waited for the blinds? I ended up folding on the flop leaving me with T700 in the big blind. Of course Sklansky was right and i picked up KK in the Big Blind, and again in the Small Blind! Overall, I think i played a great tournament. I played very tight and waited for my situations. I also got good cards when i needed them. I know i played two hands badly, but don't need to post them cause looking back i know i was wrong. These hands seem more boarderline. So, what do you think? Mark | ||
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| Re: My Tournament Play, Dr_Monkey, 3. Oct 2003 09:41 | ||
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| my answers are mixed in: > Early on i built an above average stack. I get 64o in the SB. 6 limpers around > to me. I have about T1800 and it is T25 more for me to call. I called as did > the BB. was i right to? > I think this was a bad play. Yeah, it only cost $25 to see the flop, but what are you expecting to see? If you pair your 6 or 4, how do you know someone isn't playing A4, A6, K4, K6? The only thing you can hope for is the str8. I think in the long run this is a loosing play. Would you pay 200 with this hand to see the flop if the blinds were 200/400? If the BB raises, are you going to call? > > two levels later (200-400) i pick up QQ in mp. UTG raises. (he is tight > aggressive for the table, but a little loose by my standards. UTG i expect him > to have a good hand, but not necessarily great.) > I 3-bet and he calls. I put him on AK, AQ,10-10 or JJ with a remote > possibility of slowplaying wired aces. > > Flop 5 7, 10 rainbow. > > he checks, i bet, he calls. Turn is another 5. check, i bet, call. > River is a king, he bets! Can i call his bet? AK looks like a strong > possibility at this point. The bet is 400 and i have 1400 left. > This is a tough one. You might be right about the AK, but I think a call is right here. There is a huge pot. I would take the risk to see if he was bluffing. > Limits are up to 1000-2000 my table has just become 7 handed. I have 2700 left > and am utg. I pick up K9s and start to think of Sklansky, "don't make > despartation bets." I open raise. Should i have waited for the blinds? Limits are 1000/2000 so blinds are 500/1000? You have 2 more laps before you blind out. I think a raise here is bad. I think a big stack with an average hand would call your raise just to see a flop. Your 700 left would not be scary. If you were on the button, you might get a steal if it was folded to you. I think that is a better time to play K9s. | ||
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| Re: My Tournament Play, Schuster, 3. Oct 2003 13:24 | ||
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| Comments are splattered around! > Early on i built an above average stack. I get 64o in the SB. 6 limpers around > to me. I have about T1800 and it is T25 more for me to call. I called as did > the BB. was i right to? > > I figured to be getting a good price, even with this garbage hand. Also, i had > been very tight to this point so if i did hit a hand it would be very hidden. > The blinds were about to increase again and I thought there might also be some > advertising value. (i ended up with the nut str8 and took in a big pot. My > holding really did surprise my opponents) Lee: I would call here. Now is the time to "gamble" a little and see if you can catch a lucky flop to build a big stack. If you miss, you've lost very little and if you hit, you will win a decent pot and put yourself in a position to keep climbing up. The price is right. > Flop 5 7, 10 rainbow. > > he checks, i bet, he calls. Turn is another 5. check, i bet, call. > River is a king, he bets! Can i call his bet? AK looks like a strong > possibility at this point. The bet is 400 and i have 1400 left. Lee: Ugh, that's a tough spot, and it really depends on your opponent's tendencies and his stack. If he has a healthy stack then a bluff bet is more likely as he would not want to be risking a large part of his stack to try to take it down with nothing. Does this opponent like to bluff a lot? Is he the type to go to the river with AK? I wouldn't think that most players would do that in a tournament. Actually, my read here is KK. When you 3 bet and got to heads up, he decided to call, so he could see if an ace hit the flop, and because you might have AA. Once the A doesn't hit, he probably figures you for QQ, AA, or less likely AK, with a slim chance of KK. If he figures he's most likely to be up against AA or QQ, checking and calling seems correct because he will win the same if you have QQ because you will bet it for him, and he will lose more if you have AA because you will raise the flop. When the K hits the river, he's hoping you've got the aces, and fires a value bet into you. That's really the only hand I can put him on here without knowing stack sizes and this player. Did you happen to see what he held? > Limits are up to 1000-2000 my table has just become 7 handed. I have 2700 left > and am utg. I pick up K9s and start to think of Sklansky, "don't make > despartation bets." I open raise. Should i have waited for the blinds? > > I ended up folding on the flop leaving me with T700 in the big blind. Lee: If you're going to put in 2000 of your last 2700, you should be pot committed for the last 700 after the flop. If your hand isn't good enough to feel good about doing that with most flops, I'd let it good. You still have a few hands before you really have to get desperate. Good luck in future tournaments Mark! Lee | ||
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| Re: My Tournament Play, Mark, 4. Oct 2003 08:33 | ||
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| > > Flop 5 7, 10 rainbow. > > > > he checks, i bet, he calls. Turn is another 5. check, i bet, call. > > River is a king, he bets! Can i call his bet? AK looks like a strong > > possibility at this point. The bet is 400 and i have 1400 left. > > Lee: Ugh, that's a tough spot, and it really depends on your opponent's tendencies > and his stack. If he has a healthy stack then a bluff bet is more likely as he would > not want to be risking a large part of his stack to try to take it down with nothing. > Does this opponent like to bluff a lot? Is he the type to go to the river with AK? > I wouldn't think that most players would do that in a tournament. > > Actually, my read here is KK. When you 3 bet and got to heads up, he decided to > call, so he could see if an ace hit the flop, and because you might have AA. Once > the A doesn't hit, he probably figures you for QQ, AA, or less likely AK, with a slim > chance of KK. If he figures he's most likely to be up against AA or QQ, checking and > calling seems correct because he will win the same if you have QQ because you will > bet it for him, and he will lose more if you have AA because you will raise the flop. > When the K hits the river, he's hoping you've got the aces, and fires a value bet > into you. That's really the only hand I can put him on here without knowing stack > sizes and this player. Did you happen to see what he held? I didn't know too much about this player, except he was fairly tight and we had about the same chip count. When he bet, i thought about it for a while and made the crying call. I figured that throwing away the best hand here would be horrible, while winning the pot would make me 3nd or 4rd biggest stack at the table. He showed down his JJ! A bluff on the river! Was i ever glad i called when i saw his hand. As for the rest of the tournament, i picked up an AKo utg before (almost) getting blinded out at the 4000-8000 level. I had 4 callers, won the pot and became the final table chip leader, for a short while. I end up heads-up against the final chip leader (he had me by 3:1). After 10 mins of head-to head, i was back down in chips 3:1 and picked up AA. I got all my money in pre-flop, but he won it with 10-9o. I pocketed $650 for 2nd. Mark | ||
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