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 Tournament Deals/Rules - 2 Questions, jordanc79, 2. Oct 2003 22:40 | ||
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| Posting this up for anyone that knows standard practices when it comes to tournament play, as I'm in a weekly home NL tourney that has seen some fairly unusual deal-making that seems possibly unfair. 1. Can a play who has been eliminated from a tournament offer another money to another player still alve to take his seat? I'm almost positive this is a "no", since you would see a pro find an amateur with a hefty stack and do such that. 2. Is it allowed that 2 players in a single-table tourney to stake eachother? I figure this is somewhat collusory since such two players would avoid confrontations with one another or even dump money off. The first instance happened recently, yet everyone at the table agreed. The second hasn't, but would be interested in finding out a more "official" answer. --- JordanC Poker Comic | ||
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| Re: Tournament Deals/Rules - 2 Questions, 4 POKER, 2. Oct 2003 23:08 | ||
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| Hi, Answer to Question #1: Once you are eliminated from a tournament.....you're eliminated, period! #2: Staking players is allowed even if they are both playing at the same table. Of course if they are colluding in any way, then that would not be legal/ethical or fair (to say the very least), but there's no rule saying that one person can not put another player into action. They are two separate issues; staking does not mean colluding! (could it happen?....yes it could. Could you control "who is putting who" into action?......I don't think so). 4P- | ||
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| Re: Tournament Deals/Rules - 2 Questions, Formless, 3. Oct 2003 06:25 | ||
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| Regarding 2., well everything is allowed in a way, many casinos barely have a rulebook, let alone enforce it. But two players with a piece of each other at a one table tournament is highly unethical and I would let both players and the cardroom management know about it. | ||
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| Re: Tournament Deals/Rules - 2 Questions, tommyhawk, 3. Oct 2003 08:24 | ||
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| Men "the master"Nguyen has a whole syndicate of players and they play in the same tournaments and at the same tables. What can you do?? tommyhawk | ||
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| Re: Tournament Deals/Rules - 2 Questions, gary ford, 3. Oct 2003 12:30 | ||
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| on 3. Oct 2003 08:24 tommyhawk wrote: > > Men "the master"Nguyen has a whole syndicate of players and they play in the same > tournaments and at the same tables. > > What can you do?? The growth of poker form an "insiders game' to 'everybody's game ' presents some interesting challenges. The establishment of a generally accepted rule book is needed to legitamize the game. In addition, the shifting interpretations from club to club , even from shift to shift is a very bad business practice. Like it or not, poker has changed dramatically and so quickly that adjustment is difficult in an industry that has no infrastructure. Its one thing to manage a small business another thing entirely to manage a rapidly growing big business. Ask any former dot.com "executive." > > tommyhawk | ||
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| Re: Tournament Deals/Rules - 2 Questions, mkpoker, 3. Oct 2003 12:39 | ||
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| I freely admit that I don't know much about tournaments, but I know that top tournament pros routinely trade "shares" of their outcomes as a hedge (i.e. before the tourney, they'll agree: "I'll give you 20% of my prize money if you give me 20% of your prize money"). Do you think these arrangements are similarly unethical? If a tourney were down to 3 players and two had swapped partial shares, they might be motivated to collude against the 3rd, no? My own view is that such arrangements are OK, but any deliberate action of collusion (chip dumping, softplaying, etc.) can't be permitted. Granted, these acts are very tough--if not impossible--to prove. But if they are proven, it's cause for disqualifcation/banning. | ||
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