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 Ax suited question, holleywood, 2. Oct 2003 22:00 | ||
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| what is people perceptions of Ax suited??? good to play in late position, raise, call, just a wondering | ||
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| Re: Ax suited question, MozMan, 2. Oct 2003 22:28 | ||
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| AXs plays better in multi-way pots (playing for the flush), which means there must be plenty of callers. This is why you want to play it in late position; because then you can see how many callers there are and only play it when you are getting proper odds. Keep in mind, most of the time you will be playing the Ace instead of the flush, which is why you want to be really careful is the 'X' is lower than a 9 or T. I think the worst of them are 6 through 9 because those have the fewest ways you could potentially play them (no str8 potential). Anyway, as a GENERAL rule, I like the 'X' to be 9/T or higher, even when suited. -Moz "The Queen is dead, boys, and it's so lonely on a limb." | ||
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| Re: Ax suited question, holleywood, 2. Oct 2003 23:10 | ||
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| ok, so lets say that i limp in late postion w/ax and flop a nut flush draw and some one bets hard. should i continue to fish? | ||
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| Re: Ax suited question, Bungus, 2. Oct 2003 23:35 | ||
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| NL? or fixed betting? | ||
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| Re: Ax suited question, holleywood, 2. Oct 2003 23:47 | ||
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| nl | ||
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| Re: Ax suited question, shorn, 3. Oct 2003 04:56 | ||
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| In NL (ring game), this is an implied odds question and the answer depends on two things. One, how deep in chips is your opponent relative to your stack(the deeper the better), and two, will he/she pay you off if you hit for all of their money. Obviously, any good NL player will/should give you terrible current pot odds to continue in the hand, so the key is comparing the total "chips in play" odds to what you have to call to continue and making a reasonable estimation of the probability that this opponent will call you down. This second part is a function of what your read is on them and how you know they play. Generally, I would guess that it is not correct to chase the flush in NL because most players will not call off all of their chips with a likely second best hand. But, I am sure their are instances (and opponents) where it might be worth it. | ||
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| Re: Ax suited question, philly, 2. Oct 2003 23:36 | ||
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| Are you talking about limit or nl? | ||
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| Re: Ax suited question, Brian462, 2. Oct 2003 23:44 | ||
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| That just depends on whether the pot is giving you the odds to keep going or not. If you had enough callers ahead of you to see the flop then you should usually have enough to justify you staying 'til the river. Since you have a 1 in 3 chance of making your flush by the river you will need 2:1 odds to continue. Your small bet at the flop plus the big bet you will likely have to contribute on the turn is equal to 3 small bets so you will need to NET 6 small bets profit each time you win to break even(assuming you win 100% of the time you make your flush). This means you usually need a lot of preflop callers or at least 2 callers all the way to the river. Luckily, low limit games provide ample amounts of both. | ||
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