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 NLHE tourney strategy, Grateful Rooster, 30. Sep 2003 08:51 | ||
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| I posted this to the Tourney group, but received little response. Maybe yall have put more thought into this issue. I've played a fair number of tourneys and SNGs with moderate success (slightly above break-even). I've played mostly a fairly tight, aggressive strategy, but as I'm still learning, I still make strategic mistakes that cost me. As I learn and improve, though, I know I will become more profitable with this strategy. I would like to know, though, what people think about employing some of the looser, Brunsonesqe plays (ie. low suited connectors). I read the thinking to be that you need a big stack (relative to blinds) and face a big stack that has the ability to go all-in to make this profitable. You have to dump a lot of hands to play for the one that hits and provides a big payoff. Problem I see using this strategy off the bat, is that the losses are too big to sustain with initial tourney stacks, so it puts you in a hole and you can't take enough advantage of the "big hit." I've been thinking of employing the Brunson strategy when I get a large stack relative to the table, but not before. So, do any of you play this way? How do you figure how large a stack you need (relative to blinds) to enter into these waters? Do any of you employ any other "loose" strategy successfully? All feedback is appreciated. - GR | ||
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| Re: NLHE tourney strategy, Eman, 30. Sep 2003 08:58 | ||
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| I play a lot of Sit N gos and multi tourneys and have good success. In the early levels from late position I would call and sometimes raise (hoping to get a free look at the turn) with suited connectors. Its cheap to play and the pay out is good. I dont chase unless the odds are there. But after the first few levels, when the blinds are increasing and your stack isnt, I tighten up alot. I dont have a specific number but I think 100 times the big blind is safe to play suited connectors. But I still only play from late position with a lot of callers. | ||
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| Re: NLHE tourney strategy, Grateful Rooster, 30. Sep 2003 09:45 | ||
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| Good point. Early on blinds are low, lots of players (often conservative) -- you can get in and out fairly cheaply. Also agree with late position. I made the mistake of playing low suited connectors early and got too far into a hand with poor possibilities and took a big hit. Late position allows you to see what you're up against. It sounds like in general you play loose from LP early in a tourney in attempt to hit into a large stack until you get hurt enough to tighten up; agressive with the pots you go into, though. Is that a fair assessment? Thanks. --GR | ||
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| Re: NLHE tourney strategy, Eman, 30. Sep 2003 10:38 | ||
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| Yes Im aggressive with the hands Im pretty confident in. But i try and see flops for cheap if i have a drawing hand and sometimes bet in hopes of free cards for turn or river. | ||
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| Re: NLHE tourney strategy, NCD, 30. Sep 2003 11:13 | ||
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| Oddly enough, in Tourneys over the last few days I've had better luck with suited connectors than pairs. I usually only play 9-10 suited or higher but if I can get in for only the big blind I'll look at any suited connector because the flops often come out like 5-5-9 and this makes 5-4d a great hand to have started with. But I won't put more than the big blind into them just to see IF I can catch on the flop unless one of my connectors is a 10 or better. Which leads to another question... I've seen suited connectors defined as sequential cards (9-10) or any two cards that will make a straight (8-Q). On average, how many inside spots will you play? And which is the correct definition of what constitutes suited connectors? IE: We all play 10-J and probably 9-J but what about 8-J and 7-J? I might not even play 9-J suited if it looks like it's going to cost me much to see the flop. I haven't even considered the other two because it's really hard to make multiple inside draws to complete the straight. But that's just me... what about you folks? NCD | ||
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| Re: NLHE tourney strategy, TrippH, 30. Sep 2003 19:49 | ||
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| my understanding is that "suited connectors" always refers to adjacent ranks ... if the ranks aren't adjacent they're "one-gappers" (J-9), "two-gappers" (J-8), etc. ... but in regard to the original post, I like playing low suited connectors every now and then just because if I do happen to hit the flop, my hand should be very well disguised and if I get to show it, it's a nice bit of advertising ("if he'll pay to see a flop with 4-3, he could have anything" when for the next 100 hands I may only play top-15 hands) | ||
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| Re: NLHE tourney strategy, NCD, 30. Sep 2003 20:03 | ||
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| Ok... is there a definition list... what are top 15 hands? Yea, silly ain't it? NCD | ||
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| Re: NLHE tourney strategy, Grateful Rooster, 1. Oct 2003 07:57 | ||
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| I've read suited connectors as a more general term, w "connector" referring to an abitily to fill out a straight w both cards. "Gappers" would be more specific. I've seen a lot of tables ranking starting hands in HE, but this link (http://www.gocee.com/poker/he_ev_pe.html) provides a heads-up evaluation. You could argue, though, that some of the lower ranked hands on this list are actually more playable though. Thanks to all for the commentary. I played a little looser last night w suited connectors in a NL SNG, and while I didn't hit a big one, I did find it opened up my game against tight competitors, and got more calls to my other "real" hands. By the end I was slapping them around silly. I won the heads up w 86o against A9s when the board straightened me out, so I had a bit of luck too. Anyway, thanks. GR | ||
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| Re: NLHE tourney strategy, NCD, 2. Oct 2003 17:10 | ||
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| Thanks for the link! I also bought Turbo Tex HE from Wilsons... can't wait until it arrives! NCD | ||
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