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 tough laydown - right move?, Andrew W, 29. Sep 2003 14:15 | ||
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| I made what I thought was a hard laydown. I even showed my cards. That prompted someone at the table who wasnt in the hand to question my play - as I defended it, he admitted he didn't notice the flush draw. What do you all think? (15 minutes later, I'm back up to over 3k, and the guy who won the pot is gone, not that it matters) Hand #468266-79 at Mon4pmNL-04 (No Limit tournament Hold'em) Powered by UltimateBet Started at 29/Sep/03 17:01:21 fsam01 is at seat 0 with 2985. tmedic3 is at seat 1 with 1015. a_1967_Goat is at seat 2 with 1630. revlovejoy is at seat 3 with 2620. Chris sr 4464 is at seat 4 with 2775. quickspark is at seat 5 with 2110. kenobi is at seat 6 with 1065. prop is at seat 7 with 780. jackstraw77 is at seat 9 with 1645. The button is at seat 1. a_1967_Goat posts the small blind of 30. revlovejoy posts the big blind of 60. fsam01: -- -- tmedic3: -- -- a_1967_Goat: -- -- revlovejoy: 8h 5h Chris sr 4464: -- -- quickspark: -- -- kenobi: -- -- prop: -- -- jackstraw77: -- -- Pre-flop: Chris sr 4464 folds. quickspark folds. kenobi folds. prop folds. jackstraw77 calls. fsam01 folds. tmedic3 folds. a_1967_Goat calls. revlovejoy checks. Flop (board: 6s 4d 7d): a_1967_Goat checks. revlovejoy bets 180. jackstraw77 calls. a_1967_Goat folds. Turn (board: 6s 4d 7d 8d): revlovejoy bets 540. jackstraw77 goes all-in for 1405. revlovejoy folds, showing 8h 5h. jackstraw77 is returned 865 (uncalled). Hand #468266-79 Summary: No rake is taken for this hand. jackstraw77 wins 1620. | ||
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| Re: tough laydown - right move?, Jav, 29. Sep 2003 14:55 | ||
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| I don't know if the laydown was the right move (I think that would depend on a lot of circumstances about your opponents and how the game has gone), but I do question showing the laydown. Do you know why you showed your cards? You might have a very good reason for doing so, but I think in general that's not a good idea. First, you are showing that you can make a tough laydown. This will encourage people to be bluffing at you in the future with scary boards. I think it might make it harder for you to know where your opponents are at later in the game. And if your read was right, you're also telling that other player that you read him well. This may get him to play better against you later, which is also bad for you. But like I said, you may have had a good reason for showing those cards. | ||
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| good analysis, Andrew W, 29. Sep 2003 15:18 | ||
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| Hmmm, with what you pointed out, I had NO good reason to show cards. In both cases, I lose out with that player. I didn't really think it through, just ego I guess. I think I will just decide to never show unless I think I will get a real benefit from it. | ||
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| Re: tough laydown - right move?, modestmouse, 29. Sep 2003 23:30 | ||
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| bad laydown. but worse is the small bet of 180 on a flopped str witha 4 flush on zee board. i would charge more if he is going for flush. ive seen jackstraw play and he is good, and i think if it was bigger bet u win right there. if he call then u are probably a fav there,,,,,but if u were slow playing.... the non nut is not a good idea, u should be happy to pick up a small pot with 8-5. on 29. Sep 2003 14:15 Andrew W wrote: > I made what I thought was a hard laydown. I even showed my cards. That prompted > someone at the table who wasnt in the hand to question my play - as I defended > it, he admitted he didn't notice the flush draw. What do you all think? (15 > minutes later, I'm back up to over 3k, and the guy who won the pot is gone, not > that it matters) > > Hand #468266-79 at Mon4pmNL-04 (No Limit tournament Hold'em) > Powered by UltimateBet > Started at 29/Sep/03 17:01:21 > > fsam01 is at seat 0 with 2985. > tmedic3 is at seat 1 with 1015. > a_1967_Goat is at seat 2 with 1630. > revlovejoy is at seat 3 with 2620. > Chris sr 4464 is at seat 4 with 2775. > quickspark is at seat 5 with 2110. > kenobi is at seat 6 with 1065. > prop is at seat 7 with 780. > jackstraw77 is at seat 9 with 1645. > The button is at seat 1. > > a_1967_Goat posts the small blind of 30. > revlovejoy posts the big blind of 60. > > fsam01: -- -- > tmedic3: -- -- > a_1967_Goat: -- -- > revlovejoy: 8h 5h > Chris sr 4464: -- -- > quickspark: -- -- > kenobi: -- -- > prop: -- -- > jackstraw77: -- -- > > Pre-flop: > > Chris sr 4464 folds. quickspark folds. kenobi > folds. prop folds. jackstraw77 calls. fsam01 > folds. tmedic3 folds. a_1967_Goat calls. > revlovejoy checks. > > Flop (board: 6s 4d 7d): > > a_1967_Goat checks. revlovejoy bets 180. > jackstraw77 calls. a_1967_Goat folds. > > Turn (board: 6s 4d 7d 8d): > > revlovejoy bets 540. jackstraw77 goes all-in for > 1405. revlovejoy folds, showing 8h 5h. jackstraw77 > is returned 865 (uncalled). > > > > Hand #468266-79 Summary: > > No rake is taken for this hand. > jackstraw77 wins 1620. | ||
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