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Random thought about cheating, SKinner, 25. Sep 2003 08:23
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This has nothing to do with poker, but scams in general.

I have a friend who was recently in Vegas. I asked her to bring me back a $5 chip from one of the casinos, so I could have it for luck.

So, now I have these two chips, one from each of two prominent casinos on the main strip. In looking at them, I got to wondering...what would stop someone from finding a way to duplicate them, then simply waltzing into a casino, buying in for some chips, then adding their counterfeit chips to the stack?

I realize it wouldn't be cake, but in looking at the chips, I don't really see anything cryptic that would prevent them from being easily duplicated.

Not planning anything. just curious. anybody know anything about this kind of security in Vegas?

thanks,
Skinner
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Re: Random thought about cheating, Boomer, 25. Sep 2003 08:56
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Chips are money to casinos and chip-makers employ security features to make counterfeiting difficult. The higher the chip value, the more security features it will have, including edge spots and color graphics. Low-value chips ($1 or less, tournament chips) may have fewer security features (no edge spots, gold foil graphics). Check out the websites of a few chip-makers for details. pokerchips.com and chipco.com are two sites with information about how chips are made and protected.
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Re: Random thought about cheating, _play_me, 25. Sep 2003 11:55
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I really don't think you working out of your house could produce believable replicas of casino chips for less than the face value of the chip. But if you figure out a way you will cause an entire industry to rethink their way of business.


on 25. Sep 2003 08:23 SKinner wrote:
> This has nothing to do with poker, but scams in general.
>
> I have a friend who was recently in Vegas. I asked her to bring me back a $5
> chip from one of the casinos, so I could have it for luck.
>
> So, now I have these two chips, one from each of two prominent casinos on the
> main strip. In looking at them, I got to wondering...what would stop someone
> from finding a way to duplicate them, then simply waltzing into a casino, buying
> in for some chips, then adding their counterfeit chips to the stack?
>
> I realize it wouldn't be cake, but in looking at the chips, I don't really see
> anything cryptic that would prevent them from being easily duplicated.
>
> Not planning anything. just curious. anybody know anything about this kind of
> security in Vegas?
>
> thanks,
> Skinner
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Re: Random thought about cheating, LJH, 25. Sep 2003 12:39
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DEAR SKINNER, I ALSO HAVE HAD RANDOM THOUGHTS OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO HAVE RANDOM THOUGHTS, AND GUESS WHAT------THEY SOMETIMES SLIP UP, AND CARRY THESE THOUGHTS INTO FRUITION, AND THEN THEY M NEED ME AS THEIR ATTORNEY. PLEASE STOP THOSE RANDOM THOUGHTS BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. LJH
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Re: Random thought about cheating, Jacks-and-Nines, 5. Oct 2003 08:31
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you mean before you get another paycheck?
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Re: Random thought about cheating, EC, 25. Sep 2003 13:16
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Casinos also will occasionally recall and reissue their larger denomination chips to help prevent this.

But yeah, I'm sure there are security features you and I don't know about, and to make accurate smaller denomination ones it wouldn't be worth the money.


Eli

on 25. Sep 2003 08:23 SKinner wrote:
> This has nothing to do with poker, but scams in general.
>
> I have a friend who was recently in Vegas. I asked her to bring me back a $5
> chip from one of the casinos, so I could have it for luck.
>
> So, now I have these two chips, one from each of two prominent casinos on the
> main strip. In looking at them, I got to wondering...what would stop someone
> from finding a way to duplicate them, then simply waltzing into a casino, buying
> in for some chips, then adding their counterfeit chips to the stack?
>
> I realize it wouldn't be cake, but in looking at the chips, I don't really see
> anything cryptic that would prevent them from being easily duplicated.
>
> Not planning anything. just curious. anybody know anything about this kind of
> security in Vegas?
>
> thanks,
> Skinner
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Re: Random thought about cheating, Dr_Monkey, 6. Oct 2003 07:43
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I guess you have two options:
1) Make the chips yourself
2) Have a chip making company make them.

Option 1
Like someone else posted, you "homemade" chip will be too costly for you to produce. I would imagine you need some pretty fancy molding equipment to produce a chip.

Option 2
I doubt any company would make a casino chip for you. Holy liability batman. You get busted and tell the cops that company x made your chips with a casino logo. If you came to me and I was a chip maker, I would say sure I can make them, take your money, call the cops and the casino. You'd get your money back but you would be off to jail.
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