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 UPF Tourney tonight, mroban, 24. Sep 2003 20:59 | ||
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| Thanks for a great game and congrats to Javelin who schooled me heads up. Great coinflip hand at the end that I would love comments on (will post tomorrow). But my game has improved quantum leaps in just a few months, so thanks to everyone for giving me great advice and just know how much I appreciate it. Great bunch of people in the tourney, you guys all rock (especially wren - sorry stdioh, but I think we all have a crush on her). What a lucky guy you are. MR | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, MozMan, 24. Sep 2003 21:04 | ||
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| Congrats to you MR, on your 2nd place finish. That's 12 full places better than me! :) -Moz "You can see your reflection in the luminescent dash." | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Andrew Wells, 24. Sep 2003 21:11 | ||
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| You played well mroban, and held the chip lead most of the tourney. However, I want to know what you were thinking with that preflop reraise all-in on the button with Jc5c heads-up that gave you a real shot to win it. Congratulations Javelin! Everyone who participated played some good poker tonight, and I can only see this event getting better (and stronger) in the months to come. We are missing some notable posters from this event. Come on all, it's worth $22 to see how you handle real competition. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, mroban, 25. Sep 2003 06:48 | ||
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| What was I thinking about that Jc5c hand? I always play that monster, are you kidding? No seriously Andrew, that was a really bad play that I got away with. Here is what happened (although I want to check the transcript). 1. I had just been outplayed badly on 2 previous hands by Jav, one when I had a slight chip lead that put him even and then a few hands later he badly outplayed me and raised me allin on the flop. I had a middle pair (I think) and an overcard and felt I was beat there. So I was now shortstacked at T4000 or so against his T14000. 2. So when I got that hand and he raised, my thinking was that he was trying to bully me now that I had a short stack. If I reraised allin, he would either lay his hand down (my preference) or I would have to play it. I was willing to play that hand because I figured it was probably a coin flip hand (if he didn't hold a real hand). 3. I don't remember what his cards were, but I think his starting hand had an Ace. Something like A9os. Got lucky on the river with a club. Truthfully, that was an abosolutely horrendous play on my part (I think). Conversely, I thought I made a great allin call trying to win it at the end with 5h7h. Jav made a standard 3x blind raise and I called hoping to catch something. I flopped the straightflush draw and figured I had 17 outs x2 to win the thing (less a few that would have made him a full house). So at worst I was even money at that point. Good enough to try and win the damn thing (I thought). Anyway, I thought I played really poorly heads up against Jav. Jav played really great and deserved to win. My heads up play definitely needs a little work. I have been playing a very aggressive heads up style which works fairly well against average players in SNGs but I guess against a player of Jav's caliber I need to refine my approach a bit. But I thought I needed to be aggressive to have a shot there and it almost worked. Going back to the Motown hand Andrew, that was the worst decision I made all night and probably was a bit of a tilt factor. I was losing for the first time all night and probably got a bit frustrated. Ironically, it was the luck I had in that hand and the one that busted Schuster out (his AK against my A9, I caught a lucky 9 on the river) that convinced me it was my night and made me think I could win it all on a 57s. When I saw the straight flush draw I just thought it was my night and wanted to hit a huge hand to win it. Kudos again to Jav who played phenomenally. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Schuster, 25. Sep 2003 07:54 | ||
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| Haha! I thought I was money with that JJQ flop. Figured even if you did spike your 9, I'd have outs with any T, Q, K, or A. It didn't bother me at all though, I would have played with an A9 in your spot too. The tournament was just way too much fun and I was very happy with myself for getting that far among some of the best players I know. Congrats on your second place finish mroban, well played!! Lee | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, mroban, 25. Sep 2003 08:28 | ||
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| ditto for me Schuster. Obviously I am no superstar, but I ran into some good cards and got lucky in a few spots. I still can't believe I came in 2nd place among all the good players last night. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Andrew Wells, 25. Sep 2003 20:13 | ||
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| The straightflush draw on the flop is worthy of trying to double up. I just thought you had had enough when that J5s was shown all-in. In fairness, you were willing to take chances to get where you did. My approach was not successful. We were all fairly close stack wise at my table following the first break. I had just gone back down to 980 a few hands before when my raise to 200 with KQs from middle position at the 30-60 blind level was played back at by 500 (don't recall who, but I was outchipped). I decided to release rather than take my shot there. The whole table stepped up the aggression after the break, and I found myself with about the same stack (now short) at the 75-150 blind level off of flopless semisteals. At that point I couldn't get cards or a decent situation to shove all-in since you were all playing right in keeping me off of any all-in moves. I had a Q5 from the cutoff (which was also the only opportunity to raise instead of call) with 360 left when we were five handed that I didn't want to commit with since I was microstack and sure to get called, maybe in two spots. I did finally get a hand on my 145 big blind (A5 which was the best I'd seen since the KQs), that they left up to Wren to deal with from the small blind with AJ. I suppose I could have made a stand with some two gapped trash before I got too short, which would have been embarrasing. You all got my respect for not allowing me to ever double through. I can't find any tactical mistake in my play, I just regret not being able to get aggressive when it mattered. I know how some of you play now though, so don't think I'm going to be that easy in the next one. BCingU. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Schuster, 24. Sep 2003 21:23 | ||
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| Agreed, I had a hell of a time and already can't wait until the next one. Nice job by all, and congrats Jav on your first place finish!!! Lee | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, tommyhawk, 25. Sep 2003 04:42 | ||
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| Hi guys, Great to see that it was a great tournament. I would really like to take part next time. Is there any time that would be playable for American and European. I can't wait to get my but kicked and be able to ask what i did wrong. If there are more overseas players with the same problem maybe we can work something out. If i am the only one don't bother i'll just hear the juicy hand analyses. cheerio, tommyhawk. keep on learning. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, JLenart, 25. Sep 2003 05:24 | ||
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| Hey guys what a great experience last night was. Thats what online poker should be all about. What a blast. I can't tell you how excited I was just to make the final table amoung some great poker players. When I made it to the money I almost couldn't believe it. I really made a big mistake going over the top of Schuster with K 10s. I was hoping to steal or catch the flush neither of which happened when Schuster's Aces held up. Why is it my aces don't? Like the time I had them and McMonkey floped a set of fives. I made a strong laydown there. Thanks again all! Great job and congrats! John "WindyCityJ" | ||
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| UPF Tourney tonight, donrhem, 25. Sep 2003 05:43 | ||
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| Thanks to all! I had a blast last night. Way to go Javelin! It must have been the Bloody Mary! Maybe we can do the next one on the weekend so we can get more of our across the ocean members to play. Don 9doctordon9 | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, chasepoker, 25. Sep 2003 06:18 | ||
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| Yeah last night was a good game and quick as well ! I have never played anywhere so quick it was like speed poker ! Congratulations to Jav who played very well and to Mroban who was razzing it up at the end and who had a shot at the end to take the whole lot ! Tough job to Paul Stine who seemed to get the most ridiculously bad cards when i was at his table and of course thanks to Wren for being drunk. Apologies to whoever i fluked out on ( hitting one of my 5 cards to knock you out ). Finaly a quick merci to mozman for calling me French and also to Begis who tried his best to get me knocked out :-) Maybe a weekend would be better next time maybe start a new thread about that though ! Right day off, a few hours to kill, i am off to play a bit of poker on UB ! Au revoir Chasepoker PS I registered 40+ people to play there were a lot of no shows, any idea why ? | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Schuster, 25. Sep 2003 07:51 | ||
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| I was hoping you'd read that min raise as weak. You'd be min raising my big blind from the small blind a few times and I'd come over the top of you twice, both times with reasonable hands (KQs and KK). I figured your hand wasn't that strong when you made the min reraise, so was figuring you'd have the same logic on mine. I wouldn't call it a mistake on your part, just happened to run into a hand. Lee | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, beigs, 25. Sep 2003 15:23 | ||
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| That was definitely a lot of fun even it meant exposing that leak in my game we all call "No Limit". I think the best sign of the night came at the final table, a non-UPF observer commented about how he's never seen a tournament table talk so much. It's always more fun to play with friends. 'Cause if it wasn't, I'd have left the first time Stine verbally spanked me. beigs PS Paul... I'm still waiting for those pictures. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, mroban, 25. Sep 2003 15:38 | ||
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| If anyone gets a transcript from UB we should each post our favorite hand of the evening. So far UB has not complied with my request (they sent me something that was not Hand Histories). | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Jav, 25. Sep 2003 16:30 | ||
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| I requested a hand history for the tournament today, I'll let you guys know if I get anything. There were several intersting hands that I think deserve some discussion. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Andrew Wells, 25. Sep 2003 20:26 | ||
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| If there were any interesting hands that I was involved in (doubtful), I won't mind explaining what I was doing. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, beigs, 25. Sep 2003 21:19 | ||
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| on 25. Sep 2003 20:26 Andrew Wells wrote: > If there were any interesting hands that I was involved in (doubtful), I won't mind explaining what I was > doing. On a similar note, if anyone can explain to me what I was doing, I'd love to hear it. I think the hand I got knocked out on was the only hand I played semi-correctly. I had pocket 8's and a flush draw after the flop and I was being bet all-in. I knew I was up against a pair of Aces (there was an ace on the flop) and hoped one of my 11 outs would hit. Oh, well. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Wren, 25. Sep 2003 06:26 | ||
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| Yup, the tourney was a heck of a lot of fun! You guys r00000l :O) Congrats Javelin on the win (enjoy the hat...hehe), and mroban you kicked some butt too! Everyone played well & it made for an excellent challenge. Aww....yeah, stdio's a lucky guy, but I'm a lucky girl too. He's wonderful ;O) | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, guinnessman, 25. Sep 2003 06:58 | ||
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| Good game everyone....wren, I owe you one....cracking my aces with AK spades. (I am patsfan420) I didn't bother me that much since I think I would have gone all in like you did, figuring I would fold with anything less than QQ. Thanks for a great game everyone and I look forward to the next one...I am in Costa Rica most of next month, so I will probably be joining you in November. Guinnessman | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, noiseboy, 25. Sep 2003 08:58 | ||
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| That was a bad beat, but I think going in at that point with AKs was justified. It's just the way the cookie crumbles sometimes. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Wren, 25. Sep 2003 09:53 | ||
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| That was a very tough spot for me, and I think I made a mistake by moving in, for the following reasons: (a) I had a big stack and could afford to wait for really good opportunities, (b) Guinness had played very few pots up until that point (c) he was raising from early position and (d) his stack was pretty big (enough to cripple me severely if I lost). To be honest, I think I would have folded AKo there, and the s00tedness was the added incentive to go all-in instead of folding (funny that that very s00tedness enabled me to win the pot once I realized my predicament ;) Alternatively, I could have called and taken a flop, but I don't think that option was any better than moving in. All in all, I think it was a close call. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, noiseboy, 25. Sep 2003 09:56 | ||
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| It's really hard to lay those down when they are sOOted. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Andrew Wells, 25. Sep 2003 20:38 | ||
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| That's a pretty decent opportunity with a legitimate shot at taking the blinds and the raise with no flop. If you would have done the same with QQ, then AKs can't be called a mistake. You just happened to find pocket aces that time which made the hand interesting. As aggressive as you were playing, I'm surprised that you considered letting that one go. I'd believe differently if you were closer to the money at that point, but it wasn't even final table yet. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Wren, 26. Sep 2003 10:34 | ||
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| The main reason I didn't feel great about it was that Guiness had been playing soooo tight. If it was Banter, FullTilt, Schuster or one of the (moderately) looser players putting in the raise, I would have felt much better about pushing back. And I am very gap-concept-conscious :O) on 25. Sep 2003 20:38 Andrew Wells wrote: > That's a pretty decent opportunity with a legitimate shot at taking the blinds and the raise with no > flop. If you would have done the same with QQ, then AKs can't be called a mistake. You just happened to > find pocket aces that time which made the hand interesting. As aggressive as you were playing, I'm > surprised that you considered letting that one go. I'd believe differently if you were closer to the > money at that point, but it wasn't even final table yet. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, mroban, 26. Sep 2003 11:58 | ||
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| Wren: We still haven't discuss the hand you folded against me when I came in on the flop for a baby raise with the board K24. You had made a raise preflop and I called you and then bet out on flop. You asked me what I had and I didn't really want to tell you at the time because I thought I was giving too much information - so I lied and said 2 pair. Then, you said (incredulously) "what K2?" and I felt embarrassed to have flat called with a trash hand like K2 (b/c that would have been as crappy a play as someone could possibly make in that spot). What I had was A4suited. You didn't make that big a raise preflop and I read you as blind stealing...but instead of coming back over the top I wanted to play the hand to see if I could hit a flush and trap you. I picked up the flush draw with the middle pair and figured unless you had AK, KK or AA you were folding to a big raise. BUT...I wanted you to fold. At that point I really didn't want to play a drawing hand and I wasn't willing to come back too aggressively over the top (after all, you did raise preflop)...so knowing what a good player you are, I thought I could make a suspiciously small raise and you will smell a monster (I hadn't made that play yet) and you might throw the hand away. If you came back over the top obviously I was folding and if you called, then so be it, I will play my draw. So obviously I was thrilled when you folded and my play worked to perfection. Obviously this can only work against a good player like you. I was dying to try it all night. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Wren, 26. Sep 2003 12:14 | ||
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| I didn't think you had two pair ;) To be honest, I simply wasn't sure what you were doing on the flop there. You could have had nothing, and been testing the waters. You could have had a little bit of it, and been testing the waters. You could have hit it hard, and been trying to trap. In any case, I didn't have any of it, you were a big stack, and I knew you were capable of tricky plays such as leading a small amount w/ a big hand, hoping for me to come overtop. In any case, I just decided to be done with the hand and wait for a better opportunity to make some $$. Good play! :O) on 26. Sep 2003 11:58 mroban wrote: > Wren: > > We still haven't discuss the hand you folded against me when I came in on the flop for a baby raise with the board > K24. You had made a raise preflop and I called you and then bet out on flop. > > You asked me what I had and I didn't really want to tell you at the time because I thought I was giving too much > information - so I lied and said 2 pair. > > Then, you said (incredulously) "what K2?" and I felt embarrassed to have flat called with a trash hand like K2 > (b/c that would have been as crappy a play as someone could possibly make in that spot). > > What I had was A4suited. You didn't make that big a raise preflop and I read you as blind stealing...but instead > of coming back over the top I wanted to play the hand to see if I could hit a flush and trap you. I picked up the > flush draw with the middle pair and figured unless you had AK, KK or AA you were folding to a big raise. > > BUT...I wanted you to fold. At that point I really didn't want to play a drawing hand and I wasn't willing to > come back too aggressively over the top (after all, you did raise preflop)...so knowing what a good player you are, > I thought I could make a suspiciously small raise and you will smell a monster (I hadn't made that play yet) and > you might throw the hand away. If you came back over the top obviously I was folding and if you called, then so be > it, I will play my draw. > > So obviously I was thrilled when you folded and my play worked to perfection. > > Obviously this can only work against a good player like you. I was dying to try it all night. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, mroban, 26. Sep 2003 13:53 | ||
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| Its funny Wren, but I used that play in the Aruba tourney when I actually did flop a monster. I had KK in the BB and checked against one limper. I hit my set on the flop and there was no ace. I made a baby raise and the guy comes back over the top allin. I would have "beat him into the pot" if we were playing live. He hit two pair on the flop and filled up on the river and I busted out. Unreal. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, mroban, 26. Sep 2003 14:01 | ||
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| actually i am relating the facts wrong (just checked the hand history). He had a straight draw, had flat called my baby raise. The turn was a blank so I put him allin, he called and hit his 8 outer on the river. My example didn't even make sense (I would have filled up too). | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, MozMan, 25. Sep 2003 20:45 | ||
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| He wren- I really don't think you did anything wrong with that hand. I would probably have done the same. -Moz "You can see your reflection in the luminescent dash." | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, guinnessman, 26. Sep 2003 11:06 | ||
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| I would have done the same, and I'm the one Wren beat..... I did seem to be playing a little tight, but I seemed to get all my borderline hands (3-3, J-10, 7-8 suited) in early position where I didn't bet them....When I was on or close to the button I got 2-7,3-6, 2-9, etc.... Guinnessman | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, mroban, 25. Sep 2003 07:02 | ||
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| well tell him to stop working so hard...life is too short to miss fun nights like that. Sorry I missed you guys in Toronto, I got way too busy there. Maybe next time. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Schuster, 25. Sep 2003 08:02 | ||
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| That was a hell of a call when I moved in on you with the 7-4s. The whole time you were deciding, I was just chanting at the screen, "FOLD FOLD FOLD!" At the time I thought I was shortest stack at the table and figured I wouldn't be worse than 2 to 1 in most situations if you called, but really didn't figure you would call ;) . When you flipped over the A4, I figured I was done for, and even got up to grab a drink when the hand was over. Then I heard it beeping at me and realized I can't do simple math. lol! Was a great time though and I really can't wait to do it again. Nice job by everyone!! Lee | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, mroban, 25. Sep 2003 08:26 | ||
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| that one just smelled like a steal raise to me. Its nice to get them right every once in a while. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, noiseboy, 25. Sep 2003 09:03 | ||
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| Just have to say, that was a great tourney. Very tough, and a great learning experience. One thing I learned is that I have to adjust to play with tough players. It's so much easier to get away with stuff at the $50 and $25 NL and PL tables online than it is in a tourney with tough players. Congrats to Jav and the other money finishers! Also, from playing B&M tourney's, I'm very reliant on reads, which aren't as easy to pull off online. I should probably read up on math and game theory or something. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Wren, 25. Sep 2003 09:48 | ||
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| > One thing I learned is that I have to adjust to play with tough players. This is true, but playing with a field of generally good tournament players also yields the opportunity to make some plays that would be much riskier or even completely inappropriate in a game with fishy or unknown opponents. For example, reraising what looks like a steal raise against an aggressive, but sensible, player with trash. All in all, it's easier to put players on hands, so you can play more according to that. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, mroban, 25. Sep 2003 10:10 | ||
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| I agree Wren. Against most players in online tourneys, they are not steal raising with the intention to fold if reraised. They are raising K9s because they think that is a good hand to raise with. So when you reraise with AJ and the flop comes AJx with two flush cards they will call a large bet and try to hit the flush (and usually do). Anyway, totally agree with you. The other thing for me is that I play better when I give other players credit for being good players rather than playing with players I have no respect for. I assume they are making bad plays and want to punish them for their transgressions and that usually leads to taking some bad beats. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Andrew Wells, 25. Sep 2003 21:44 | ||
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| You have an excellent point about coming over the top of what might be a steal raise without a real hand. I probably could have made one or two of these moves with semi-trash at or before the 30-60 blind level. Thanks for fixing a leak in my NL game Wren! | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, chasepoker, 26. Sep 2003 05:23 | ||
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| For tournament poker i find that the re-raise steal against a late position raiser to be crucial if you are to do well. You can only do this a couple of times before you get looked up though so try and use it when the blinds are high enough to reward this play. on 25. Sep 2003 21:44 Andrew Wells wrote: > You have an excellent point about coming over the top of what might be a steal raise without a > real hand. I probably could have made one or two of these moves with semi-trash at or before > the 30-60 blind level. Thanks for fixing a leak in my NL game Wren! Chasepoker | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Andrew Wells, 26. Sep 2003 09:44 | ||
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| I'm thinking it's relevant at non-fishy tables. Whenever I've seen someone (in other small buy-in tournaments) on the button reraise a middle or late position raiser where about half of each players stacks could be in the pot, much too often someone decides to go all-in. The few NL tourneys I've played this year probably did not have enough players who are willing to raise/fold preflop for me to have considered this option. I would need to expect that there's a very good chance the raiser will muck, since I don't want to get called (or worse) as a 4:1 underdog preflop. No way did I think Wren always had a hand she would commit with off of her abundant late position raises. I needed to play back (sitting on her immediate left) at least once with a hand like 97o (and get away with it) to create some doubt the rest of the way, instead of waiting for something I was willing to attempt to double through with. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Wren, 26. Sep 2003 10:44 | ||
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| To be honest Andrew, I felt good about picking on your blinds for precisely this reason; I felt confident that if you were to come back over the top, you'd have a genuine hand, and I could fold comfortably if I didn't have a really good hand myself. I was much less likely to pick on a player like Banter, who I've seen reraise blind steal attempts on several occasions. Yup, it's dangerous to make resteal moves with pretty trashy hands, but doing this every once in awhile, and more importantly, having the image that you're willing to do this is very good for one's tournament game. I did this one time in the BB holding JTo, which isn't a complete piece of junk but is pretty doggy. WindyCityJ made a minimum raise from the button, and SB folded. I'd seen him make minimum steal-raises and then fold to large reraises, so I decided that this was a good spot to rebluff. Changes are, his holding wasn't wonderful and he'd let it go. If he had two bigger cards and called, I still wasn't a HUGE dog, and if he had a smaller pair and called I was almost 50%. At this point in the tournament, there were 5 left, I was the 2nd shortest stack and I wanted to get into the bigger money, so I was willing to take this risk. He ended up folding, I showed JT and he typed "Grrr! I had A9!!" I liked that play :O) on 26. Sep 2003 09:44 Andrew Wells wrote: > I'm thinking it's relevant at non-fishy tables. Whenever I've seen someone (in other small buy-in > tournaments) on the button reraise a middle or late position raiser where about half of each players > stacks could be in the pot, much too often someone decides to go all-in. The few NL tourneys I've played > this year probably did not have enough players who are willing to raise/fold preflop for me to have > considered this option. I would need to expect that there's a very good chance the raiser will muck, > since I don't want to get called (or worse) as a 4:1 underdog preflop. No way did I think Wren always had > a hand she would commit with off of her abundant late position raises. I needed to play back (sitting on > her immediate left) at least once with a hand like 97o (and get away with it) to create some doubt the > rest of the way, instead of waiting for something I was willing to attempt to double through with. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Wren, 26. Sep 2003 10:46 | ||
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| I know that if it was me steal raising at you, I certainly would have given you respect! :O) on 25. Sep 2003 21:44 Andrew Wells wrote: > You have an excellent point about coming over the top of what might be a steal raise without a > real hand. I probably could have made one or two of these moves with semi-trash at or before > the 30-60 blind level. Thanks for fixing a leak in my NL game Wren! | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, WilliamS, 26. Sep 2003 11:30 | ||
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| This is what took my chips away! It was folded to me in the SB and I found AQo. I raise the pot and mroban reraised me. Earlier in the tournament he had reraised a blind steal and made the comment the stealer was "supposed to fold". I read his reraise as a "leave my blind alone" and I came back over the top to find pocket 8s which became 8s full on the flop. This hand left me short-stacked and the cards didn't come to bail me out. Anywhoo, thats the way it goes. Great tourney all Will | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, mroban, 26. Sep 2003 11:40 | ||
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| I was hoping that was your read :). Truthfully, with pocket 88 I was terrified of playing that hand when you played back but I was pretty sure I was going to have the best hand on the flop anyway (I did). But 88 against AQ is pretty much a coinflip. I got lucky there even though I think I made the right call. | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Schuster, 26. Sep 2003 12:01 | ||
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| Yeah, I was the one who was supposed to fold. When I put the rest of my chips in, I had top top with the nut flush draw on the turn, with an AJo. I probably would have folded to a larger reraise, but I opened for 120 (big blind was 40) and it was only 80 more to call. Unless I'm on a steal with just total rags (which I rarely rarely do) I figure I've got to play for just 80 more. This is one of the reasons that steal reraising is tougher, in my eyes, is that sometimes you have to risk a lot of chips to have it work out. That's not to say I won't do it, but sometimes I think it's easier to just let go of the blind. Lee | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Jav, 25. Sep 2003 10:14 | ||
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| Thanks for all the congratulations, I was extremely surprised and happy to pull off the victory. But I don't think I had to outplay anyone, I got some really good cards at the end. I never got better than pocket Jacks, but it seemd like every other hand was a medium pocket pair or AK. And as there were fewer and fewer people, those hands looked better and better to me. Is there a way to get hand histories mailed to you from UB? I would love to look over that tourney some more. Anyway that was an extremely fun tourney to play. I'm ready for the next one, though I have a feeling it's a little harder when there's a hat bounty out on you! | ||
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| Re: UPF Tourney tonight, Schuster, 26. Sep 2003 12:05 | ||
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| Hey MK, I never did get to ask... early in the tournament I opened for a 3x bb raise making it (I think) 30 to go. You played back at me from the blind making it 95, and I played back at you making it 200 and you just called. An ace came on the flop, you bet out, and I had to muck holding KK. What did you have? I'm wondering if I dodged a bullet by not betting more heavily preflop or if I wasn't aggressive enough and gave you a chance to see a flop with an AK. Lee | ||
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