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 Is party TOO fishy??, jumpthru, 24. Sep 2003 17:01 | ||
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| In a NL25 at party, I have AA in late position. EVERYONE calls for 1.00 , and I reraise five...and four people call. Flop comes J65 high, and I go all in for $18. Two people call. Turn comes 6. One person goes all in, other folds. River is a blank. I lose to a 67 offsuit who called a five dollar preflop raise AND a 18 dollar all in on the flop with a pair of sixes 7 kicker... Wait, let me repeat that...he CALLED my all-in of eighteen dollars with a PAIR of sixes no kicker... Yes its good to have fish, but this just seems weird...either hes the worst poker player alive (or dead) or he knew the next card coming. I hope I get the chance again to go all in against him with AA agasint his 67o...hopefully the odds will work out in my favor next time.... EDIT: Okay, maybe party is tight...I just called an all in with QQ on the flop with a Ace high...and took it down against pocket 7's...if someone went all in on UB with a Ace high flop I would of laid my queens down in a second... EDIT2: Good, the guy that just took my money just went called all in again with Ace high and lost to trips...worst poker player alive...not even joking. ***** Hand History for Game 181829615 ***** 0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Wed Sep 24 19:37:34 EDT 2003 Table Card Room Table 1105 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button Total number of players : 10 Seat 1: BlaiseAce ( $10.75) Seat 2: mwheise ( $44.45) Seat 3: Moose82 ( $37.55) Seat 4: AFAZENDA ( $64.95) Seat 5: tc001 ( $18.20) Seat 6: bill55or56 ( $40.15) Seat 7: pfsss ( $49.15) Seat 8: zerk22 ( $24) Seat 9: Mike1121 ( $25) Seat 10: jumpthru ( $23.75) mwheise posts small blind (0.25) Moose82 posts big blind (0.50) Mike1121 posts big blind (0.50) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to jumpthru [ Ah, Ac ] AFAZENDA raises (1) to 1 tc001 calls (1) bill55or56 calls (1) pfsss calls (1) zerk22 folds. Mike1121 calls (0.50) jumpthru raises (5) to 5 BlaiseAce folds. mwheise calls (4.75) Moose82 folds. AFAZENDA calls (4) tc001 calls (4) bill55or56 folds. pfsss calls (4) Mike1121 folds. ** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5d, 6s, Jh ] mwheise checks. AFAZENDA checks. tc001 checks. pfsss checks. jumpthru bets (18.75) jumpthru calls all-In. mwheise folds. AFAZENDA calls (18.75) tc001 folds. pfsss calls (18.75) Creating Main Pot with $80.75 with jumpthru ** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6d ] AFAZENDA checks. pfsss bets (25.40) pfsss calls all-In. AFAZENDA folds. ** Dealing River ** : [ Ts ] Creating Side Pot 1 with $25.40 with pfsss ** Summary ** Main Pot: $80.75 | Side Pot 1: $25.40 | Rake: $3 Board: [ 5d 6s Jh 6d Ts ] BlaiseAce balance $10.75, didn't bet (folded) mwheise balance $39.45, lost $5 (folded) Moose82 balance $37.05, lost $0.50 (folded) AFAZENDA balance $41.20, lost $23.75 (folded) tc001 balance $13.20, lost $5 (folded) bill55or56 balance $39.15, lost $1 (folded) pfsss balance $106.15, bet $49.15, collected $106.15, net +$57 [ 6h 7d ] [ three of a kind, sixes -- Jh,Ts,6h,6s,6d ] zerk22 balance $24, didn't bet (folded) Mike1121 balance $24, lost $1 (folded) jumpthru balance $0, lost $23.75 [ Ah Ac ] [ two pairs, aces and sixes -- Ah,Ac,Jh,6s,6d ] | ||
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| Re: Is party TOO fishy??, ReMMy, 24. Sep 2003 17:12 | ||
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| The short answer is "no, Party is not fishy, that player is just a fish". Many people have a built in distrust of online poker rooms because they can't actually see the cards being shuffled. It may seem that he somehow knows the next card because you always see his cards when he makes these spectacular suck outs. What you don't see are his equally insane calls that he makes, loses, and then mucks. Keep playing those rockets exactly the same way! You might also want to spend some time playing low limit games, this will give you an opportunity to see just how frequently that happens, without losing your entire stack when it does... | ||
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| Re: Is party TOO fishy??, jumpthru, 24. Sep 2003 19:31 | ||
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| Sorry maybe I didn't make it clear... I dont think party is fishy, I was only joking about people knowing the cards that are coming...its just I was asking if there are too many bad players at every table. If you have Aces and go all in preflop, and 5 people call you with nothing, one of them is bound to his two pair...so I was wondering if its possible to be at a table full of terrible players and still lose. Of course I feel bad about having my Aces cracked by a guy that calls an all in with 67o and like four outs...but I would play the hand the same everytime I played it and hopefully so does he :) I have more than made up for that by now thankfully and I am finding it MUCH easier to make money then at UB. Nate http://www.offsuit.com/ - A different look at poker. ----- "The short answer is "no, Party is not fishy, that player is just a fish". " | ||
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| Re: Is party TOO fishy??, shorn, 25. Sep 2003 05:25 | ||
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| Why only $5 pre-flop?? I would have made it at least $10 if not $15 to go and even the fishiest of fish would throw it away. I have found that it is much more difficult even for fish to call big bets/raises when they have only seen two cards instead of five. | ||
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| Re: Is party TOO fishy??, Eman, 25. Sep 2003 06:12 | ||
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| my thoughts exactly.....I would have raised much more preflop, too. | ||
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| Re: Is party TOO fishy??, cafferacer, 27. Sep 2003 14:45 | ||
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| yeah, shorn, why 5 bucks. AA in no limit with a small bet (he must have played at the table long enuf to realize 5 bucks would net a lot of callers) therefore slow playing aces can be suicide in situations like that. if he went all in pre, either everyone woulda folded, or more likely he woulda had a more desirable caller(s) and 6-7o folds, he wins. of course he may have lost anyway but i like allin on the hand, seems like a no brainer. doesnt pay to trap against 4 players does it? as everyone know AA wins 35% of the time approx.... but heads up your better off | ||
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| Re: Is party TOO fishy??, stdioh, 25. Sep 2003 10:08 | ||
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| No online poker is not rigged. Yes, people are very very stupid. No, there is no such thing as a site being too fishy. If you think you are suffering from implicit collusion, move up in limits. | ||
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| Re: Is party TOO fishy??, vest besterly, 27. Oct 2003 12:55 | ||
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| If you think you are suffering from implicit > collusion, move up in limits. New to online gambling so maybe you can clear something up. By "imlicit collusion" do you mean that the players might be working together? This would seem easy to do with the speed and anonymity of the internet. A player could even setup 4 different accounts on the same online casino and trap players in a 5 man high limit game, seeing all those cards and fleecing the pigeon. Online poker seems the most cost effective way to play, but to find out that there's even a handfull of these guys roaming around would be enough to warn me off. | ||
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| Re: Is party TOO fishy??, Schuster, 27. Oct 2003 16:26 | ||
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| Implicit collusion is another term for schooling. Basically, a lot of players call against pot odds to draw to their second best hands, but since all the rest called, they each got the correct odds to draw. It's nothing intentional, it's just a product of playing with a bunch of bad poker players. Lee | ||
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