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 30+3 SNG compared to 10+1 SNG, Stevolley2, 24. Sep 2003 06:05 | ||
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| Are they as easy, I have played in some of the 10+1 and feel as though It is very difficult to lose consistently. Are the 30+3's as easy or a little more difficult. | ||
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| Re: 30+3 SNG compared to 10+1 SNG, Pedro, 24. Sep 2003 06:10 | ||
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| If 30 dollars is to much for you, you may alter your play. I suggest you stay with what you can afford. There si no difference there are still bad players in 30 +3 just like there is in 10 + 1. However it may be a little less agressive, in 30 + 3. | ||
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| Re: 30+3 SNG compared to 10+1 SNG, Stevolley2, 24. Sep 2003 06:23 | ||
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| What I meant is, with a very conservative strategy it is tough to lose, you can almost always make the money just letting people kill themselves. When it comes to 10+1. Is this the same for 30+3's | ||
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| Re: 30+3 SNG compared to 10+1 SNG, Pedro, 24. Sep 2003 06:30 | ||
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| No, you have to be a little more agressive in 30+3 no one goes nuts in those tournaments the players are a little better. I usually get to the final 4 everytime and depending oj the cards make the determination whether I place 1st 2nd 3rd or 4th. Blinds can kill you by that time. You have ot make moves with cards you usually wouldn't. | ||
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| Re: 30+3 SNG compared to 10+1 SNG, Don Quixote, 24. Sep 2003 07:20 | ||
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| Stevolley, can you elaborate on "letting people kill themselves"? Are you talking about being a little passive with someone that is betting out on top pair until the river before declaring your strength? In other words, letting someone bet your hand, letting them think they have the best of it, before raising them. You must be the guy that lets me bet my AQ, when an ace comes on the flop, to the river with AK, having NOT raised preflop.....lol If this is the tactic, it seems to work pretty well and makes me slow down. Many posters recommend taking the lead, but sometimes I think that letting someone else take the lead pays off. In any case, I am learning that varying my play helps. Thanks. Would appreciate your comments. Don Quixote on 24. Sep 2003 06:23 Stevolley2 wrote: > What I meant is, with a very conservative strategy it is tough to lose, you can almost > always make the money just letting people kill themselves. When it comes to 10+1. Is > this the same for 30+3's | ||
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| Re: 30+3 SNG compared to 10+1 SNG, Stevolley2, 24. Sep 2003 07:30 | ||
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| What I mean by letting people kill themselves is playing super super tight. . Folding 95% of the time is not unheard of. The players will eliminate each other while you sit back and wait for truly a superior hand. When you have a big pair, AK, or AQ you then play aggressively without risking your entire stack. Alot of times you have a good chance of making the money without playing one hand. Remember this. | ||
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| Re: 30+3 SNG compared to 10+1 SNG, Kyle, 24. Sep 2003 11:51 | ||
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| Seems like I do best if I play super tight, but play one great hand early - if I get one. Play it aggressively, then sit on the chips. It doesn't seem too long and that big pile now looks small as the blinds get bigger. Once it gets down to 5 players, I then like to play more aggressively (if I am still around.) Today I played 3 SnG's (two 7 card and one lhe). I didn't get to play one hand through until about 1/3 the way into the last one (7 card). Ended up winning it, but was the short stack with 4 still at the table. Kyle | ||
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| Re: 30+3 SNG compared to 10+1 SNG, Eihli, 24. Sep 2003 07:31 | ||
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| I tried playing a few of the 10+1 sitngoes and maybe someone can give me some advice. I can make it past the first few rounds pretty easily by playing conservatively. Sometimes when the cards aren't coming, 3 or 4 people will drop out before I even play a hand. The trouble starts when it gets down to 5 or less people. How do you play when the blinds are that high, and any hand that you get involved in could seriously hurt your stack? I don't want to let the blinds in cheap in, but if I make a large bet and miss the flop, I'm done for. Should I flip a coin and be going all-in with any hand worth playing at this point? | ||
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| Re: 30+3 SNG compared to 10+1 SNG, Stevolley2, 24. Sep 2003 07:36 | ||
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| Picking up blinds and blind steals will help you get into the money. Also know the player, if they call every blind steal attempt, save your chips until you have a premium holding. If you are being raised in your blinds, wait for a premium hand and come over the top, many times they will fold. | ||
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| Re: 30+3 SNG compared to 10+1 SNG, Pedro, 24. Sep 2003 07:43 | ||
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| When you are shortstacked if your going to play a hand might as well go all in you can't afford to lose 200 and try to double up with 400 units next time. When you have the money to double up you need to double up then so any hand worth playing is an all in type hand. | ||
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| Re: 30+3 SNG compared to 10+1 SNG, SmellsLikeVictory, 24. Sep 2003 10:55 | ||
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| Go all-in whenever you come in. Here's how it works at a typical Party 30+3. You're playing uber-tight and won one hand. You have T900. It's down to 5 with blinds just increasing to 100/50. Leader has T2300, others have 2200, 1600, 1000 with you as short stack. When you go all-in, you're putting pressure even on the biggest stack. This close to the money, they're not going to call unless they have a pretty big hand. T2300 risks getting knocked down to 1400 while you double through to 1800 if you win and jump all the way to 2nd. Most aren't willng to take that risk w/o a huge hand, so you win a lot of blinds this way. This scenario plays out over and over and over in these SNGs. What you don't want to do is have something like 55, make a minimum raise and let the 2300 stack call you with something weak like A9o and draw out on you. And a bigger raise you're usually forced to call because of pot odds when they re-raise all-in, so make'em pay from the beginning. Yes, sometimes you're going to get busted by the guy with Kings or lose a coin flip. But sometimes, you'll get that coin flip and win and be in perfect position to money and even win. Most of the time you'll take down the blinds uncontested and chip away at the others positions. I've had SNGs where I didn't play a hand the first three rounds and my first move and all subsequent moves were all-in. This is basically an impossible strategy for you opponents to counter without risking their whole tourney. Even a team of colluders would have difficulty countering this. If you build a big stack and are leader, then you can make small raises and fold to big all-ins, but if you're playing conservatively at first and hence will be short stacked, you're best off going all-in on any hand you play. | ||
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| Re: 30+3 SNG compared to 10+1 SNG, Dr_Monkey, 25. Sep 2003 08:09 | ||
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| I am also thinking of moving up to $33 SnGs from $11. I have played in 2. I came in 5th in the first. Buy slow played his set when JJ floped. I overplayed my AQs think I was best. 2nd one I came in 2nd. Using same strategy as my $11 games. I watch 3 other $33 trying to get a feel for the players at this level and they can be just as wild as the $11 games. All 3 of the ones I watched had at least one player dropping before level 2. By level 3 they had 5-7 players. I think I am going to stick with the $33 SnGs. | ||
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| Re: 30+3 SNG compared to 10+1 SNG, guinnessman, 25. Sep 2003 08:25 | ||
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| You don't seem to get the third and fourth callers to an all in in the $30 games like you do in the $10 ones. I played a $10 6 person sit n go the other night to kill some time before the multi table started and 3 people got eliminated on the first hand. I bet 4x BB, got raised, reraised all in, caller, I call, and the other raiser called. AA for me, AK, AQ, and QQ.....crap flopped and I was at 4000 before the second hand. I won the thing before the end of round 2.... Guinnessman | ||
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