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 NLHE SNG ($30+3) - Was i correct?, James Brooke, 23. Sep 2003 16:07 | ||
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| Hi Please critique my play: SNG - 1500 starting chips. Down to 6-handed (50/100). Start with 1445 and dealt Kc2c in BB. UTG, button & SB call. Flop: Ad Qc 8c UTG checks, button all-in for 895, SB calls, i go all-in (1345), UTG folds, SB calls. Button has Ac Ts SB has Qs Jd Turn and river come: 9h Qd and SB wins with 3 of a kind and takes don the pot of close to 4K. Should i have folded, called (probably not) or raised as i did? I think fold, (and i definitely would have done had SB folded) but would appreciate opinions. Thanks | ||
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| Re: NLHE SNG ($30+3) - Was i correct?, James Brooke, 23. Sep 2003 16:13 | ||
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| And the more i think about it... it really was a bad play wasn't it? | ||
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| Re: NLHE SNG ($30+3) - Was i correct?, chasepoker, 23. Sep 2003 16:33 | ||
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| I think you probably realise that this play goes against everything you are trying to achieve in tournament poker ! Dont ever risk all your chips in situations like this also you could easily have been looking at someone holding the nut flush draw !!! Tournaments are all about 1) outlasting everyone 2) winning pots without showdowns ( no risk ) IMO I think you should put this one down to experience go and grab a copy of Slanksy's tournament poker book and maybe drop down a couple of levels ( maybe start in the $10 games and work up ? ). I am sure if you are serious about learning the game you will realise in a couple of months this was not the greatest play ever ! Good Luck ! Chase on 23. Sep 2003 16:13 James Brooke wrote: > And the more i think about it... it really was a bad play wasn't it? Chasepoker | ||
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| Re: NLHE SNG ($30+3) - Was i correct?, Schuster, 23. Sep 2003 16:19 | ||
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| > SNG - 1500 starting chips. Down to 6-handed (50/100). Start with 1445 and dealt > Kc2c in BB. UTG, button & SB call. > > Flop: Ad Qc 8c > > UTG checks, button all-in for 895, SB calls This is where you fold. You're a 2 to 1 dog to make a hand by the river, why put your chips in on a draw? You still have 15 blinds to play. > i go all-in (1345), UTG folds, SB > calls. This is about the worst move you could have made. The small blind isn't going to call close to 900 chips and then fold for 450 more. What was your reasoning for doing this? I think if you look closely, you'll realize you either didn't have any, or it's very flawed. > Button has Ac Ts > SB has Qs Jd > > Turn and river come: 9h Qd and SB wins with 3 of a kind and takes don the pot > of close to 4K. This hand was played terribly by everyone involved. So first, button bets 900 into a pot that's about 400, and then the SB calls the massive overbet with just second pair. Then you put the rest of your chips in on just your draw? In a cash game, maybe you could do this since you are getting slight money odds to make your flush, but it's still shaky. A flush won't always win. > Should i have folded Yes. You should be trying to survive, not gamble to chip up. > called (probably not) It's better than pushing all in. At least you might have some chips left if you don't make your draw and the SB will likely call if you do make it. > raised as i did? No. My biggest pet peeve in sit and go's is people who think they can push me off a hand when I bet half my stack. I open raise for 500, and they think if they go all in for 300 more, I'm going to lay my hand down. It's absolutely ridiculous, and you should think about if you are doing these sorts of things (as you seemed to do this hand). When people put half their chips out there, they aren't going to let them drift off without a fight. > I think fold, (and i definitely would have done had SB folded) but would > appreciate opinions. You think right. Lee | ||
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| Re: NLHE SNG ($30+3) - Was i correct?, James Brooke, 23. Sep 2003 17:10 | ||
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| I agree... i agree... i agree. Just needed a real kick up the arse on this one. I figured (after a bottle of wine) that with a 30% chance of winning the hand (in hindsight) what the hell... next time i think i'll do it on Wilson's and save myself $30 :) Not going to go down limits just yet as i am making $300+ a day playing much better poker than this... I think i did this because the previous tourny someone got me on a flush draw (but then the reason i play these things is because people do do that...) Mmmm, don't play poker after a bottle of wine i say. Schuster, i don't get peeved when people think they can raise me off the hand when i'm pot-committed, i just think its funny. I certainly didn't expect him to fold... i just couldn't bare the thought of having just 400 chips on the turn having not hit my flush... if he (SB) then bet i'd have to call anyway (about 9-1 pot odds) so i figured just get it in on the flop. [But then if he didn't i could check behind him... mmmmm.] Still think i'd make this play in a cash game - just... or maybe not... I'll get my girlfriend to spank me for being such a naughty boy - whilst omitting to tell her i lost $30.. | ||
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| Re: NLHE SNG ($30+3) - Was i correct?, Schuster, 23. Sep 2003 17:57 | ||
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| > Schuster, i don't get peeved when people think they can raise me off the hand when i'm > pot-committed, i just think its funny. I think it's funny as well, to a certain degree, but more often than not, when someone does this after the flop, it's with a flush draw, and it irritates the hell out of me when they hit, since I know they wouldn't push all in if they were smart enough to realize I was going to call. I'd rather just take the pot there and be done with it rather than going out 1 in 3 times. Lee | ||
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| Re: NLHE SNG ($30+3) - Was i correct?, mroban, 23. Sep 2003 17:45 | ||
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| I certainly would have folded that without a moments hesitation. | ||
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