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 The value of mixing it up..., MozMan, 21. Sep 2003 21:36 | ||
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| I was playing the B&M this morning. There were several regulars at the table who are getting to know me, and I have a reputation among them as being a tight, aggressive player. They know I never play trash, and when I show-down a hand they expect to see quality hands that are really coordinated to the board. As a result, I often get too much respect and not enough action. This was the case this morning. So, I'm in late position, one off the button, and I get 4c3c. There are 5 limpers ahead of me and the button is telegraphing a fold, so I limp in, feeling that all of my qualifications to play this hand have been met. The button folds, the SB folds, and the BB checks, so it's 7-handed. Flop comes 446 and it's checked around to me. I bet, get two callers, one EP(3) and one MP(5). Both know me and both are laughing at my bet, saying there's NO WAY that I got a piece of that flop. I know them as well, and know they are not playing small cards in those positions. I laugh along. The turn comes a 6; check, check, I bet again. The EP player calls, expressing complete disbelief, and we are all getting a good laugh as he insists that I can't possibly have a 4 or 6. Other guy folds, reasoning out loud that with 2 pair on the board he can't beat our Ace kickers. River comes a duece. EP checks and I bet. He is in complete disbelief. I smile broadly at him and we are all laughing again. He finally decides we will chop the pot with our Ace kickers and calls. Almost falls out of his chair when I show him the full-house. He was playing AJo. I got plenty of action after that. :) -Moz "You can see your reflection in the luminescent dash." | ||
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| Re: The value of mixing it up..., rdale, 21. Sep 2003 21:58 | ||
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| That hammers in the lesson that I've been trying to apply with suited connectors and decent calling odds. Even been playing them two bet late position and button or blinds raise with a large amount of callers or opening early with them when I know the table is going to have at least 5 or more callers and I don't mind dropping it to a raise that looks serious. It is hard to start mixing it up like that but the key is the laying it down when it misses. | ||
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| Re: The value of mixing it up..., Barry T, 22. Sep 2003 13:00 | ||
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| Hi. I advise against this approach. While "varying your play" has some rewards, almost everyone over-does it. Unless you can specifically state where your action has dried up because your opponents are familiar with your play and savvy enough to outplay you, there is no need to play the types of hands you describe, especially for two bets. And they are notoriously hard to play profitably. In general, players who are good enough to play small and medium suited connectors for profit are players who will also make more money by not bothering in most cases. Moz' case is different, as he really needed to change the perception of the reguilar players, he only did it once, he was in late position, he saw that the button was not about to raise, and he only had to call one bet. In this case, with all of the requirements met, he made a good play. BarryT | ||
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| Re: The value of mixing it up..., Roy Cooke, 22. Sep 2003 06:08 | ||
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| Hi Mozman If your opponents get a line on the texture of your play...the value of your poker game will decrease significantly....You need to go to great lenths to prevent this from happening. Once you sense that your opponents are reading you you need to make deception plays to baffle them...... Roy Cooke on 21. Sep 2003 21:36 MozMan wrote: > I was playing the B&M this morning. There were several regulars at the table who > are getting to know me, and I have a reputation among them as being a tight, > aggressive player. They know I never play trash, and when I show-down a hand > they expect to see quality hands that are really coordinated to the board. > > As a result, I often get too much respect and not enough action. This was the > case this morning. > > So, I'm in late position, one off the button, and I get 4c3c. There are 5 > limpers ahead of me and the button is telegraphing a fold, so I limp in, feeling > that all of my qualifications to play this hand have been met. The button folds, > the SB folds, and the BB checks, so it's 7-handed. > > Flop comes 446 and it's checked around to me. I bet, get two callers, one EP(3) > and one MP(5). Both know me and both are laughing at my bet, saying there's NO > WAY that I got a piece of that flop. I know them as well, and know they are not > playing small cards in those positions. I laugh along. > > The turn comes a 6; check, check, I bet again. The EP player calls, expressing > complete disbelief, and we are all getting a good laugh as he insists that I > can't possibly have a 4 or 6. Other guy folds, reasoning out loud that with 2 > pair on the board he can't beat our Ace kickers. > > River comes a duece. EP checks and I bet. He is in complete disbelief. I smile > broadly at him and we are all laughing again. He finally decides we will chop > the pot with our Ace kickers and calls. Almost falls out of his chair when I > show him the full-house. He was playing AJo. > > I got plenty of action after that. :) > > -Moz > > "You can see your reflection in the luminescent dash." | ||
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| Re: The value of mixing it up..., MozMan, 22. Sep 2003 19:48 | ||
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| Roy and Barry- Thank you both for the insightful comments. As you both have pointed out, this is NOT a normal play for me; not even a strategy, just a tactic, attempted almost out of despiration. Luck came into play in that I caught a miracle I was able to make a little money while advertising. The real benefit is that now there are regulars who doubt their reads on me. -Moz "You can see your reflection in the luminescent dash." | ||
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