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 Play high offsuits in Early Pos., Bungus, 19. Sep 2003 22:45 | ||
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| say in a low limit hold em game, whats the earliest position any of you pros would play two high off suited cards, like AT, KT, KJ, QT, JT or the like? Two positions left of the blinds? three? | ||
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| Re: Play high offsuits in Early Pos., rusty JEDI, 20. Sep 2003 00:42 | ||
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| http://www.pokerroom.com/main/page/games/evstats/expValue/ Use this link and play around with it a bit. As far as off the top of my head (im not a pro though). None of them are playable in ep unless the game is very passive, and even then a fold is not incorrect. That said, an important thing you must remember if you are going to play these hands is how you play them post flop will determine how big of a loser they become. They can get very painful if you are chasing or drawing to less outs than you think because someone has a higher kicker. Or if you are someone who just cant let go of a hand into an ominous looking board. | ||
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| Re: Play high offsuits in Early Pos., Andrew Wells, 20. Sep 2003 21:13 | ||
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| I'll muck all of those offsuit hands from early position, regardless of the limit. If I'm going to get involved with any of these from middle position, I'm really looking for one and only one weak player limping in front of me. But that isn't going to happen much in low limit games. I'm looking to stick in a raise with AT or maybe KJ, the rest I might limp with if I don't have an aggressive player between me and the small blind. Against more than one early position limper I'd rather not get involved with any of these hands. From the button or cutoff, I'll raise the blinds if I'm the first one in the pot. But again this is not normal for a low limit game. I might call or raise with any of these from late position against the blinds and one other player, if the small blind is tight/passive and I the limper in front is the type that will pay off with less than top pair. With two or more limpers I might throw away QT and sometimes KT from late position, but not against weak players. Generally I'm going to play these from late position and see what happens with the flop action in a low limit game, but that's only because I'm prepared to use the advantage of acting last wisely. This is probably tighter than what Lee Jones recommends, however I don't think it is necessary to loosen up with such unsuited big cards unless you are not getting much action after the flop. If anything, below 5-10 you can usually expect to get plenty of action anyway, so you really don't need to dance with these cards. | ||
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| Re: Play high offsuits in Early Pos., Roy Cooke, 22. Sep 2003 06:27 | ||
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| Hi Bungus Generally speaking...I do NOT play any of those hands upfront.....If you are playing them you are playing too many situations that will cause you to make the second best hand! Life is Good :-) Roy Cooke on 19. Sep 2003 22:45 Bungus wrote: > say in a low limit hold em game, whats the earliest position any of you pros > would play two high off suited cards, like AT, KT, KJ, QT, JT or the like? Two > positions left of the blinds? three? | ||
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