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 Could I have played this better?, MikeP, 15. Sep 2003 13:02 | ||
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| I was playing a SnG NL Texas tourney online and was dealt wired kings in late middle position. There were 6 players left, two with short stacks. I had about 1350 in chips and the blinds were 50/100. One limper before me and I made it $600, the button called(2600 chips) and everyone else folded. The flop came 9,7,2 rainbow. I felt this was a great flop for me and went all in. Of course I was called by the button with his Ah10h, and he caught two running hearts to bounce me. My question is, could I have played the hand differently, more specifically, should I have gone all in pre flop? | ||
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| Re: Could I have played this better?, Jav, 15. Sep 2003 13:06 | ||
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| I don't think you should have gone all-in pre-flop. You gave a guy with an inferior holding two chances to fold (both of which he should have taken). He just played badly and drew out on you. Sometimes that happens. Good luck next time. | ||
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| Re: Could I have played this better?, Eman, 15. Sep 2003 13:27 | ||
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| I dont think you should go all-in unless you have the absolute nuts....Ask yourself this: If you had bet and he called and an Ace came on the turn, would you still push All in?.. I doubt it. So why would you sacrifice your tourney and go All in. I hardly every go All in unless I have the absolute nuts, I bet aggressively but not allin. Only I go all in is when Im short stacked or after the river and I know I have the best hand. And no I would push all in preflop either. Thats just my opinion...Im not a pro .. | ||
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| Re: Could I have played this better?, Eman, 15. Sep 2003 13:28 | ||
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| i meant to say " No I wouldnt push All in Preflop either" | ||
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| Re: Could I have played this better?, Jav, 15. Sep 2003 16:22 | ||
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| I think he made the right bet pre-flop, and post-flop the pot was 2-3x his remaining stack; so I think pushing in at that point is reasonable. | ||
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| Re: Could I have played this better?, EC, 15. Sep 2003 13:30 | ||
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| you played it right. You had a very strong hand, the other guy had to know it, and he was an idiot. Nothing you can do about that. Eli on 15. Sep 2003 13:02 MikeP wrote: > I was playing a SnG NL Texas tourney online and was dealt wired kings in late > middle position. There were 6 players left, two with short stacks. I had > about 1350 in chips and the blinds were 50/100. One limper before me and I made > it $600, the button called(2600 chips) and everyone else folded. The flop came > 9,7,2 rainbow. I felt this was a great flop for me and went all in. Of course > I was called by the button with his Ah10h, and he caught two running hearts to > bounce me. > My question is, could I have played the hand differently, more specifically, > should I have gone all in pre flop? | ||
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| Re: Could I have played this better?, Poker God, 15. Sep 2003 17:05 | ||
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| Actually I have a few suggestions on how u could have played it. First you needed to either make a smaller bet preflop or go allin right there. Sticking in half your stack preflop isn't good if the flop is bad then your overcommitted. Also when you pushed allin on the flop he was getting a good price, about 3-1 on his call. All of that considered you still were unlucky to lose the pot. | ||
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| Re: Could I have played this better?, MozMan, 15. Sep 2003 19:42 | ||
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| I don't think there was too much you could have done differently to play this hand better. The only suggestion I ever have for pre-flop raises (when you are not in panic-mode, ready to blind out) is to make your raises the same no matter what you choose to raise. If you raise your AQs smaller than your KK or AA, some players will pick up on that, and play you properly; which you don't want. Somewhere between 3 and 4 times the size of the big blind (in this case 300-400) would be a good pre-flop raise. With KK or AA, if it's raised before me, then I will usually push all-in at that point. If it's reraised after me, I will usually respond with an all-in as well. Otherwise, if the flop is favorable, then I will make a pot-sized (or all-in, whichever is smaller) bet or raise on the flop. In a case like this, the guy made two lousy calls that will cost him a fortune eventually, but he got lucky on you, which sucks, but it happens. In any case, your play on the hand was good, don't stress it. -Moz "It's not so much that I have confidence in scientists being right; it's that I have so much confidence in non-scientists being wrong." | ||
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| Re: Could I have played this better?, grant pittman, 15. Sep 2003 20:33 | ||
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| Mike I like your raise preflop...it protects your hand and at the same time charges a pretty hefty fee for those who are chasing you and decide to call since $600 is a lot of chips in relation to what is in play at your table. Your opponent played bad before and after the flop and got lucky on you.....not much you can do about that....you played your hand well and got your opponent to call a big raise before the flop when you were better than a 2-1 favorite and then he called a bigger bet when he was dead to an ace or two running cards. I think you played your hand perfectly!!!! Better luck to you!!!! GRANT PITTMAN | ||
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| Re: Could I have played this better?, Grateful Rooster, 17. Sep 2003 12:50 | ||
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| I don't think the call post-flop was as bad as it may appear. Calling the all-in was about 3.5 to 1 in pot odds and he had just less than 4 to 1 chance to draw out on the kings (see http://twodimes.net/h/?z=83825 ). Still not a good call statistically, but not the truly awful call everyone's claiming. And if he was a large stack, he could afford to invest. --GH | ||
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| Re: Could I have played this better?, kennycatkiller, 19. Sep 2003 11:19 | ||
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| Your pre-flop raise was, if anything, a bit too much. After all, if everyone were to fold, all you would win would be $250 (SB 50, BB 100, and one limper's 100). Your all-in flop bet was a bit dicey--someone could have flopped a set or two pair. That does not excuse the fool who called your all-in bet, probably because he had a big stack. He simply got lucky by back-dooring the flush. Moral of the story--s__t happens! I assume you were playing for "Play Money." So, next time, make sure that you are playing for meaningful stakes. | ||
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| Re: Could I have played this better?, MikeP, 22. Sep 2003 09:50 | ||
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| Thanks for all the inputs. I was actually playing for real money. I have to disagree with the claim that my opening bet was too much. I certainly don't want people to call with weaker hands and give them a chance to flop something. Besides, anyone calling that bet gives me a good read on what they might have. Hence that all in second bet, figuring(correctly) that I had the best hand at that point. Also, it seems incredibly unlikely that that flop would have given someone two pair. If I'm up against a set, well that is a bit unlucky, but I still have outs. Checking at that point would have been criminal, giving someone a free card . I do appreciate the critiques and help. FYI, I played in a PL holdem SNG last night and won it, and no one drew out on me. Miracle do happen! MikeP | ||
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