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Paradise Poker Trend, Giocatore, 11. Sep 2003 22:32
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After suffering a couple of losing weeks on PokerStars or, in my case, RiverStars, I decided to return to Paradise Poker in search of better results. It's no secret that Paradise isn't what it used to be, but just a year ago it was number one and where I first made any significant money online. I've been playing there exclusively for 10 days now and my results have been phenomenal. I have made up for the back to back losing weeks on PokerStars and some. Incredibly, I can honestly say that I've won over 75% of the hands I've been involved in. Even more incredible is the fact that I've only been the victim of 3 suck-outs total. I'm beginning to notice that the best hand tends to hold up more often on Paradise than on PokerStars, and in situations where I find myself with KK-JJ, for example, I don't find myself as worried as I would be on PokerStars that an ace would flop or that someone would stay in with low pair and hit the river. I really owe this confidence to the fact that good hands tend to hold up on Paradise, at least for me anyway. I'm going to continue riding this streak and stay away from PokerStars and Ultimate Bet for a while. My question is for any of you members who play consistently on Paradise: Do you also notice this trend? I'm not insinuating that online poker is rigged, I just believe that I was the victim of absurd play and bad luck on PokerStars too often for my liking. Yet on Paradise, I automatically sit down at a table in a confident demeanor as opposed to PokerStars, where I could sense the beats coming and my KK losing to A4o when an ace hits the river. Just curious because I could not be more pleased with my results these past 10 days.

Giocatore
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Re: Paradise Poker Trend, ADAM THE EXPERT, 12. Sep 2003 03:46
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WELL GIOCATORE, YOU CERTAINLY ARE CORRECT THAT PARIDISE IS NOT WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR. YET, THEY HAVE
SOME NEW GAMES, THAT OFFER EXCELLENT PROFIT POTENTIAL

AS FAR AS YOU'RE WINNING, IT'S EASIER TO BEAT PEOPLE WHO
AREN'T GREAT, BUT AREN'T HOPELESS EITHER. SIMPLY BECAUSE, THERE ARE NOT GOING TO BE 5, 6 OR EVEN 9 OF
THEM, ALL TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING.

KIND OF LIKE IF THE WORSE NINE RIFLE SHOTS IN THE WORLD
WERE ALL TRYING TO HIT YOU, ONE OF THEM PROBABLY WOULD,
JUST BY LUCK.

WILD GAMES, ARE HARDER TO BEAT, AND THE FLUCTUATIONS,
WILL BE EXTREME, AND VERY HARD TO DEAL WITH.

IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE LARGE SWINGS, AND ARE WILLING TO
ACCEPT A MUCH SMALLER, BUT MORE CONSISTENT PROFIT,
THAN PERHAPS PARIDISE IS FOR YOU.

CERTAINLLY, THE ONE TABLE TOURNAMENTS, HAVE A MUCH
GREATER SKILL FACTOR, THAN PARTY, DUE TO THE GREATER
AMOUNT OF CHIPS, LONGER ROUNDS, AND A SMALLER STARTING BLIND STRUCTURE.

BUT, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE TO WAIT AND WAIT FOR ONE OF
THEM TO START.

WHO SAYS ONLINE IS NOT RIGGED!!?? I WON'T MENTION THE
SITE, AS MIKE WILL JUST DELEAT IT ANYWAY, DUE TO LIBLE,

BUT WATCH OUT!!!!!!!! YOU DON'T GET TO BE THE MOST
SUCCESSFUL SITE IN LESS THAN A YEAR, BY RUNNING A
CLEAN GAME

ONLY A FEW OTHER THAN ME, KNOW THIS. BUT DO THE MATH,
AND YOU WILL BE SHOWN THE INDESPUTABLE PROOF, THAT
CERTAIN SITES, ARE RIGGING THE PROGRAMMING TO NOT
ONLY GIVE YOU MUCH MORE STARTING HANDS, THAN THE
RANDOM FREQUENCY WOULD SO DICTATE, BUT ALSO GIVING
THE HOPELESS PLAYERS, MUCH MORE "MIRICLE" CARDS,
THAN THEY WOULD GET WITHOUT RIGGING.

I HAVE BEEN A PROFESSIONAL PLAYER FOR ALMOST 15 YEARS,
AM WELL-VERSED IN PROBABILITY, AND RANDOM FLUCTUATIONS

I WAS A DEALER FOR TEN YEARS, AND HAVE SEEN AND DEALT
SOME PRETTY HORENDOUS BEATS.

BUT, THE CRP I SEE, ON THE OFFENDING SITE, IS BEYOND
BELIEF!!!! EVEN FACTORING IN THE "WILEY E. COYOTE" FACTOR

(WILEY NEVER FELL, WHEN STEPPED OFF A CLIFF, UNTIL HE
SAW THAT HE WAS OFF THE CLIFF, A TERM I USE TO DESCRIBE
PLAYERS WHO DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHEN THEY ARE BEATEN,
SO THEY STAY IN, AGAINST INSERMOUNTABLE ODDS)

WHY, YOU SAY?

THINK ABOUT IT, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS IN
COLLECTIONS AT STAKE. A SITE WHERE YOU GET ALL SORTS
OF PLAYABLE HANDS, AND WHERE NO MATTER HOW BADLY
YOU PLAY, YET STILL CAN WIN- IS GOING TO GET ALL THE
BUSINESS IN THE WORLD.

I CAN REMEMBER, WHEN I WAS A HOUSE SHILL, OCCASIONALY

THROWING MY HAND AWAY, IN A SMALL POT, JUST TO LET THE
BAD PLAYER-GOOD CUSTOMER, WIN ONE.

WHAT THE OFFENDING SITE IS DOING, IS ALONG THE SAME LINES,

YET COMPLETLY WRONG, AND CLEARLY CHEATING.

I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THEY ARE DISCOVERED, AND PROVEN TO
BE CHEATS.

PARIDISE HAS IT'S NICE FEATURES, CLEARLY THE BEST GRAPHICS, SO, IF YOU ARE DOING WELL THERE, IF IT AIN'T
BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.

P.S. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO CHEATING,

PLANET POKER, INSPITE OF THE TERRIBLE GRAPHICS, IS
THE BEST PLACE FOR THAT.

MIKE CARO HAS BEEN THE NUMBER O[NE MOST OUTSPOKEN
PERSON AGAINST CHEATING, AND I LIKE AND COMPLETELY
TRUST HIM.

IN FACT, HE IS THE ONLY AUTHOR, THAT I RECOMMEND TO MY
STUDENTS, OTHER THAN ME


ADAM
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Re: Paradise Poker Trend, Stevolley2, 12. Sep 2003 05:51
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Adam,

I am an inspiring pro and feel that this info that you talk about is very important to me as a player, would you be willing to email me your thoughts on this..... stevolley@yahoo.com. I promise not to forward. I am very interested.

Thanks

Steve
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Re: Paradise Poker Trend, Lottery Larry, 12. Sep 2003 06:01
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as would i- same promise not to forward to others applies to me as well

thanks
LL
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Re: Paradise Poker Trend, Schuster, 12. Sep 2003 09:58
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> WHO SAYS ONLINE IS NOT RIGGED!!?? I WON'T MENTION THE
> SITE, AS MIKE WILL JUST DELEAT IT ANYWAY, DUE TO LIBLE,
>
> BUT WATCH OUT!!!!!!!! YOU DON'T GET TO BE THE MOST
> SUCCESSFUL SITE IN LESS THAN A YEAR, BY RUNNING A
> CLEAN GAME
>
> ONLY A FEW OTHER THAN ME, KNOW THIS. BUT DO THE MATH,
> AND YOU WILL BE SHOWN THE INDESPUTABLE PROOF, THAT
> CERTAIN SITES, ARE RIGGING THE PROGRAMMING TO NOT
> ONLY GIVE YOU MUCH MORE STARTING HANDS, THAN THE
> RANDOM FREQUENCY WOULD SO DICTATE, BUT ALSO GIVING
> THE HOPELESS PLAYERS, MUCH MORE "MIRICLE" CARDS,
> THAN THEY WOULD GET WITHOUT RIGGING.

I really hope you guys don't believe this. If he had such great proof, he'd come out with it rather than just saying he had it. If he's going to make a claim and he has proof to back it up, why wouldn't he use it?


> THINK ABOUT IT, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS IN
> COLLECTIONS AT STAKE. A SITE WHERE YOU GET ALL SORTS
> OF PLAYABLE HANDS, AND WHERE NO MATTER HOW BADLY
> YOU PLAY, YET STILL CAN WIN- IS GOING TO GET ALL THE
> BUSINESS IN THE WORLD.

Probably because if it gets out, they're shut down. Would you rather collect double rake for 1 year or the usual for 10+ years? They aren't stupid.

> I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THEY ARE DISCOVERED, AND PROVEN TO
> BE CHEATS.

I thought you already discovered them. I thought you already had "INDESPUTABLE PROOF". What's the hold up?

> MIKE CARO HAS BEEN THE NUMBER O[NE MOST OUTSPOKEN
> PERSON AGAINST CHEATING, AND I LIKE AND COMPLETELY
> TRUST HIM.

The whole theme of your post goes against everything Mike Caro stands for, and while I'm sure he appreciates the good word, I find it less than appropriate to mention his good name after the rest of that.

If you have the proof, let it out. Otherwise, you're nothing but another one of those anonymous "THIS SITE IS RIGGED WATCH CNN" guys that plagues us every few weeks with more thought put into your message.

Oh, and one last thing. Who are you anyway? You make numerous references to being a teacher, should I have heard of you from somewhere? What is your real name?

Lee
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Re: Paradise Poker Trend, shorn, 12. Sep 2003 10:59
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Lee-

You crack me up! I had wanted to ask who this guy was too for a few days now, but I jusat couldn't muster it. This dude, whoever he is, could stand a little humble pie.

Steve
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Re: Paradise Poker Trend, Schuster, 12. Sep 2003 12:45
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I'm glad it's not just me, Steve!

Lee
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Re: Paradise Poker Trend, gary ford, 12. Sep 2003 11:09
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Well, Mr. Expert----you can't spell and your grammar is poor, what kind of teacher were you? And, all caps is rude.
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Re: Paradise Poker Trend, Harold Pierce, Jr., 12. Sep 2003 14:09
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Could you break your long post into several smaller paragraphs?
A long continuous paragraph is quite difficult too read especially
at my age (59) since my vision is not what it used to be.

About 5 yrs ago I had a detached retina in my right eye. Although this
was successfully repaired with no loss of vision, the plane of vision
slopes down to the right about 3 or 4 degs. Thus, lines of text move
around abit and I lose my place in the paragraph. No problem with short
paragraphs, however.

BTW, if you suddenly see in your field of vision a swarm of
small black particles and inky swirly wisps, your retina has
detached. Get to the eye doc immediately. You have 24 hrs and
maybe less to undergo surgery to repair it. Otherwise you could
looseall vision and become blind in that eye. I had to take a
medical leave of three months until the detached retina was fully
healed.

-=-MouseEars
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Re: Paradise Poker Trend, timmer, 12. Sep 2003 19:46
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ouch.
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Re: Paradise Poker Trend, Michael C, 15. Sep 2003 18:20
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I played on PP for awhile for free then ventured into the .50/.1 tables and eventually lost and gave it up. I play better now and only at live games. Win some days and lose some days.

I don't believe that the games are rigged. At first, I won consistently and was up $200. I went to cash out $150 and they said 48 hrs. While waiting I played some more games and my balance fell below $150 and the cash out transaction was not activated. I kept playing. I think my account now has .25. My free account has $4000.

I don't play there any more - could just be me. That was 3 months ago.
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