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 The "dream hand" with AA, mkpoker, 8. Sep 2003 20:37 | ||
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| I've named this the "dream hand" not only because it was almost certainly the best, but because a caller seemed determined to chase until the bitter end. My question to you is this: could I have played this hand in a way that would have put more $$ in the pot?. Note that I did NOT slowplay my trip aces on the flop. I made this decision because it seemed obvious my opponent would stay until the river and because there was a draw on the board. Although I was fairly certain my opponent was NOT on this draw, I could have been wrong. This is 3/6 HE, UB. From MP, I'm dealt AA. One caller and one raiser to me. I reraise. 3 folds. The original limper in EP re-raises (caps). 2 callers (including me). So 3 players pay 4-bets to see the flop when I'm on AA. Sweet. Flop comes 9s 5d Ad. EP bets. 1 call. I raise, EP reraises. Other player folds. I re-raise (cap). At this point, I'm not too concerned about the flush draw. With the Ad on the board, he can't hold AKd--the only drawing hand that would justify this kind of betting. I figure he MUST have KK AND be overplaying his hand. Turn is 8c. He checks. I bet. He calls. River is 3d. I'm slightly concerned about the flush draw (with 3 diamonds now on the board) but not overly so. It seems highly unlikely he would cap pre-flop and post-flop with KQd)! So I bet. He calls. He turns over QQ. I feel like I played this right, but I'm wondering if I should have slowed up on the flop for two reasons: 1) to keep the 3rd player in a bit longer, and 2) to induce a bit more aggressive play on the turn and river. All thoughts appreciated... | ||
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| Re: The "dream hand" with AA, Andrew Wells, 8. Sep 2003 21:06 | ||
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| When you have already made the pot large preflop, you are no longer concerned with trying to keep players in (to get more out of everyone on the turn). You now have to do whatever is necessary to simply win it. The other aggressive player could be thinking the same with an AK or even AQ on the flop. Notice that this player was willing to overplay that QQ, which from your perspective looking at top set is silly. But this aggressive player is making it three bets on the flop trying to win it right there by representing an ace, hoping you will fold KK or something like AJs. I don't make such a play with QQ, and I don't think you would either. It is overplaying, but it's not as terrible as it seems. If no one has an ace (even in a hand which was capped before the flop) 10% of the time, then the extra aggression on the flop is going to be profitable if the draws miss, he spikes his set, or gets someone with top pair / weak kicker to fold. The point is when the pot gets big, you don't slowplay a good hand. | ||
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| Re: The "dream hand" with AA, 4 POKER, 8. Sep 2003 23:47 | ||
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| Hi, I think you played your hand perfectly. Once the pot is capped pre-flop, there's really no reason to slowplay your hand. (I thought that the lead out bettor had AK). With the third player in there with you, just calling all of these raises pre-flop; you just don't know what he has, and you can't be certain if he flopped a flush draw or not, and it is possible that he's holding the case Ace if the other player has something like KK or QQ. Either way, with the pot that big already, if they have any piece of it at all, they "might" just call any of the raises you make here anyway, and if their drawing to something, you have to make them pay for it....and indeed you did! Nice hand! 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: The "dream hand" with AA, stdioh, 9. Sep 2003 10:58 | ||
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| I think you played it right. When there is a pot that big and the guy calls 1 on the flop, you've got to figure that he's either going to fold on the turn or he's going to call 2 more on the flop (knowing that he'll be calling a 4th). Also, you've got to assume that the original bettor is more likely to call your raise than to 3-bet (since he's likely on AK, QQ, or KK) and then the other player will definitley come in. To add to that, there's a lot of money at stake already, so even though you're sitting there with top set, it isn't the eternal nuts and you'd rather take the pot down now than dick around. Since you know too that you currently hold the best hand you want to get as much money in now as you can too. So I'd say that fast is the only way to play that and I think you played it just right. | ||
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| Re: The "dream hand" with AA, LJH, 9. Sep 2003 19:41 | ||
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| MKPOKER, YOU PLAYED IT RIGHT.LJH | ||
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