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Hand Analysis - PPM, Mike812, 8. Sep 2003 11:23
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I played in the partypoker tournament this weekend, and I lost BIG with pocket rockets. Wondering if I should have played it differently.

About 2 hours into the tournament and I'm in the SB with AA. I have about $6000 in chips and the average was around $4500. The blinds are 75-150, and there are 4 callers before me. I raise and everyone calls the raise including the big blind.

The flop comes 2-8-J (rainbow). I have no idea what to do since I am first to act, so I bet out. Everyone folds except for a guy in MP and the guy on the button. The turn is a blank, I bet and everyone calls again. The river is a K which gives the guy in MP two pair. I bet and he raises, and I know I'm beat right there but I had to see what this guy stayed in with.

Could I have played this hand differently? Should I have folded seeing 4 callers before me, and being the first to act? Should I limp in pre-flop, and then check-raise on the flop? I know how to protect my hand in NL, but clueless in Limit. Any help would be appreciated.

Mike
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Re: Hand Analysis - PPM, Angel, 8. Sep 2003 11:40
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"I bet and he raises, and I know I'm beat right there but ..."

I had no problem with the way you played this hand until right here.
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Re: Hand Analysis - PPM, Mike812, 8. Sep 2003 12:31
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I already had a lot of money invested in the pot, and I would have won it if he was raising me with top pair. I thought he was raising me because of the king but I still had to call. I would have folded the aces if there was a straight or flush or even full house but none of that was possible. The only hand that could beat my aces was two pair or trips and I was pretty sure he did not have trips because he would have re-raised me on the turn.
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Re: Hand Analysis - PPM, jaustin, 8. Sep 2003 11:44
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First, the simple question - never fold aces pre-flop no matter what the situation.

I would check-raise on the flop, but even that may not drive out the player who made 2 pair (especially if his 2-pair was KJ).

You played the hand fine. Push your aces for all their worth. He had 5 outs and hit one. I'll take those odds any time.
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Re: Hand Analysis - PPM, verb2752, 8. Sep 2003 11:55
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Mike,

Limit is tough sometimes, when your raise did not scare anyone off & all they do is call, you know you are up against some medium pairs & drawing hands most likely. They probably checked you to get cheap calls behind you to try and make their hand which someone did. Once one of them leads out in front of you or check-raises you, read the board, because they probably have a better hand than your A-A's.... They benefited, and you fell circumstance, to the limits being small enough that they could get a cheap call or two. You played it aggressively which is all you can do, but always remember not to be married to the hand, those extra bets you give away at the end could be useful later on.

on 8. Sep 2003 11:23 Mike812 wrote:
> About 2 hours into the tournament and I'm in the SB with AA. I have about
> $6000 in chips and the average was around $4500. The blinds are 75-150, and
> there are 4 callers before me. I raise and everyone calls the raise including
> the big blind.
>
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Re: Hand Analysis - PPM, EC, 8. Sep 2003 12:56
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I think check-raising the flop would have been a mistake. Being that you raised pre-flop, there's a damn good chance that if you checked the flop everyone else would have checked too, which could have been a disaster. However, if you think the button has a good hand or is the type of player to make a stab at something just because he's that kind of player, you might reevaluate since you can check-raise him and trap the other players into calling two bets cold.

I do think you played the hand correctly, even though you figured you were beat on the river you couldn't be absolutely sure and it was probably wise to pay off the winner. These things just happen.


Eli

on 8. Sep 2003 11:23 Mike812 wrote:
> I played in the partypoker tournament this weekend, and I lost BIG with pocket
> rockets. Wondering if I should have played it differently.
>
> About 2 hours into the tournament and I'm in the SB with AA. I have about
> $6000 in chips and the average was around $4500. The blinds are 75-150, and
> there are 4 callers before me. I raise and everyone calls the raise including
> the big blind.
>
> The flop comes 2-8-J (rainbow). I have no idea what to do since I am first to
> act, so I bet out. Everyone folds except for a guy in MP and the guy on the
> button. The turn is a blank, I bet and everyone calls again. The river is a K
> which gives the guy in MP two pair. I bet and he raises, and I know I'm beat
> right there but I had to see what this guy stayed in with.
>
> Could I have played this hand differently? Should I have folded seeing 4
> callers before me, and being the first to act? Should I limp in pre-flop, and
> then check-raise on the flop? I know how to protect my hand in NL, but clueless
> in Limit. Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Mike
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