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 Question, Matt Kerster, 2. Sep 2003 16:42 | ||
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| Last Friday night I played in a 4/8 ram and jam game at the Hustler Casino. Many pots were capped before the flop. I found myself in early position with hands such as K J offsuit and then in would cost me the blind and 3 bets to see the flop. Of course many flops did not hit me. Would it be correct to throw those hands away in early position? I e play tighter in front and looser in the back. Also a couple of times I flopped an inside straight draw and it was one bet to call and the way the game was I thought it would be raised once or twice so I threw it away and then the turn comes and it would have given me the nuts. Is throwing the hand away correct or should I pay to draw? Is was also very hard to put people on hands in this style of game. How do you play in such a loose game? Matt Kerster | ||
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| Answer, Jav, 2. Sep 2003 16:53 | ||
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| My opinions below: on 2. Sep 2003 16:42 Matt Kerster wrote: > Last Friday night I played in a 4/8 ram and jam game at the Hustler Casino. > Many pots were capped before the flop. I found myself in early position with > hands such as K J offsuit and then in would cost me the blind and 3 bets to see > the flop. Of course many flops did not hit me. Would it be correct to throw > those hands away in early position? I e play tighter in front and looser in the > back. I think in a game with a lot of pre-flop raising you want to muck this hand in early position. This includes A-T, A-J, K-Q, K-J, K-T, Q-J, Q-T, etc (Maybe even A-Q). In early position, even if you hit a flop unless you hit it twice you won't know where you stand. You can lose big pots this way, and you want to avoid that. > > Also a couple of times I flopped an inside straight draw and it was one bet to > call and the way the game was I thought it would be raised once or twice so I > threw it away and then the turn comes and it would have given me the nuts. Is > throwing the hand away correct or should I pay to draw? > > Is was also very hard to put people on hands in this style of game. How do you > play in such a loose game? > > Matt Kerster For gutshot straights, in a game with lots of pre-flop betting you probably have odds to go for your gutshot, but only if you can do it for one bet. So in late position you might want to go for it (especially if you have an overcard), but in early position when you are facing probably raises (and possible re-raises) after you; you probably want to muck. In very loose aggressive games you basically only want to play very good cards. Tables like that can be a good money maker if you have the patience to not play trap hands. | ||
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| Re: Question, kennycatkiller, 2. Sep 2003 17:50 | ||
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| K J offsuit is not a good hand to play from early position, and not that great even on the button. In Ram and Jam games, you will experience wild fluctuations--big wins at time, and big losses at times. I personally do not like such games, because they resemble Show-Down more than poker. In such games, big pairs have less value and suited connectors and small pairs have more value. I would advise you to tighten up your play, and be prepared to show the best hand when all the cards are out. Bluffing is not even to be considered. | ||
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| Re: Question, Schuster, 2. Sep 2003 20:24 | ||
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| I don't play KJo up front in a regular game, much less a game like this. I suggest you tighten up for your normal games, and even more so for these types. I would however consider my odds if it did get raised back to me for my draw. The fact that if you hit the nuts, you figure to get paid off pretty well, should give you a *little* bit of overlay. Don't overestimate it, or you'll end up down in the long run. Be patient. I'd play cards up front that I would be willing to cold call a raise with from late position. KQs or better, AQo or better. Just be careful. If you get stuck a lot, it doesn't mean you're playing badly, it's just the variance acting up. Keep with it and you'll do fine. Lee | ||
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