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 Omaha books, SeanCandy, 2. Sep 2003 10:41 | ||
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| I've recently started getting a hang of how to play Omaha...I find it to be one of the more complex forms of poker...Felt like for a while I was always playing second best hands. Right now I am having trouble with valuing starting hands...The tourneys I've played, it seems like almost everyone pays to see the flop. I imagine that kind of play will have negative EV. I was wondering if someone could recommend a good book for a starting Omaha player. I imagine the book would include strategies on Hi/Lo as well. Thanks. SC | ||
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| Re: Omaha books, Jav, 2. Sep 2003 11:05 | ||
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| You're right. Most Omaha players do play too many hands. You'll find that good starting Omaha hands are as rare or rarer than good starting Hold'em hands. They're just take a little more practice because there are so many other combinations. I think 4Poker wrote some good info in this area over the last several months if you want to do a search on his posts. I think most of the discussion on this forum recently has been about Omaha 8. | ||
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| Re: Omaha books, stdioh, 2. Sep 2003 11:06 | ||
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| I browsed through Ciaffone's (very thin) Omaha book a while back and it seemed ok. Omaha is really easy to play well against fools though. Basically only play the nuts. You have to hold the current nuts or a giant super-wrapper draw to bet it, or hold enough outs to the nuts to justify the pot odds. Never chase draws to a second nut flush or try to tighten up when you have bottom set. Likewise, play starting cards that lead to good flops. High pairs in your hand give it value as to a bunch of connected cards. Something like TJQK is nice because it can improve to a nut straight fairly easilly and you can catch some really decent flops. Likewise a hand with 2 suited aces is a monster as you've got two ways to make a nut flush or you can hit an ace for top set. If you're playing hi/lo then you can play different starting hands. Hands like 6789 lose a lot of value since if you hit your nut straight you're only getting half the pot. Likewise, A2 hands go up in value. You can play pretty much any hand with A23 in a loose game or any A2 with a suited ace (but only if it is a loose game). Playing hi-lo the trick is to scoop the pot...chopping is a failure. You want hands that give you a good shot at a high and a low. Essentially something like A2TK with a suited ace is the bread and butter of high low. You can flop a nut low with a flush or straight draw and not have to fear getting quartered as much since you could also make your high and end up taking 3/4. When I play O8 I'm looking to find somebody who bets the bejesus out of their nut low only when I'm holding a nut low as well and a high. Or I'm looking to have something like nut high and nut low where the high is a straight and get 2 opponents all in where one of them takes half the high, the other half the low, and me half the rest. Pot limit is definitely the way to go when playing bad opponents because you'll get players going all in with bottom set. Anyhow, that should get you started. | ||
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| Re: Omaha books, SeanCandy, 2. Sep 2003 11:45 | ||
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| Some excellent omaha advice. I have thought about what would be absolute top hands to play. I notice some of the hands that people raise the hell out of in pot-limit/limit games are marginal at best...They just happen to flop the nuts. something like A679 and 77A flops...Its funny I've played in about 4 freeplay multi-table pot-limit hi tourneys and have made the final table twice. Seems like the site I play has very few good Omaha players. The 2 tourneys that I made the final at I played very tight...Seems like I only played about 6 hands in the first hour and a half. Anyway...Thanks for your replies. SC | ||
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| Re: Omaha books, 4 POKER, 2. Sep 2003 23:21 | ||
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| Sean, When I first started playing Omaha hi/lo, I found Ray Zees's book to be quite helpful. It's called "High Low Split Poker"- Omaha High-Low/Seven Card Stud Eight Or Better For Advanced Players. As far as Omaha high, I have played the game, but I haven't read any books on it. | ||
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| Re: Omaha books, Brian462, 3. Sep 2003 05:04 | ||
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| Helmuth's book has a chapter or 2 on Omaha. He gives some nice basic advice as well as a few insightful tips. He also has his list of starting hands which might be helpful to you. Alot of people hate his book but that section is very basic and unopinionated. | ||
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