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No body could answer this ! ( Check Bet ), helly, 30. Aug 2003 03:25
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Texas Holdem
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CHECK BET WHEN AND HOW
As nobody could answer about Check option as per my expectations I have tried to examplify a game scenario which perhaps could help u understand my prob and my understanding. We have learnt poker playing free games at paradisepoker and now want to play offlie among us we have no idea how to choose check option. There is always a conflict among us while considering check option. Please help us...

While watching a game online I have come to these observations that where CHECK option can be used to play.
Please correct me if I am wrong or do add some more possibilities if any about CHECK?

1. A player who has posted BB have the option to check a bet if its his turn during first bet round.
2. If the first player in a betting round chooses check option, every player after that has the option to check bet during that round UNLESS if some player bets some amount and as a result of that no player after that waiting for bet in turn (in the same bet round) has the option to take check option. For example Player 1,2,3,4,5 are in turn to bet in 1st bet round. Player 1 gave the BB earlier. So he has the option to CHECK. As an effect of this Check player 2 also has the option to check. 2 also chooses to Check. Now player 3 Bets for 4$. Player 4 and 5 further in turn dont have the option to check but to call bet or raise bet.

Will Dealer ask player 1 and 2 also to bet now in the same but round, who earlier decided to check in the same round, before jumping to next bet round??


Most of the time we r suggested for some books but the fact is Poker Related books are not easily available in Asia .

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Re: No body could answer this ! ( Check Bet ), Swagman, 30. Aug 2003 04:26
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Answer to question 1 is that the BB is the last to act in the initial round of betting (he/she is second to act in all other streets), and has the option of checking (keeping his bet the same amount) or he has the option of raising (the amount of this raise is dependant on the form of poker being played.) In limit hold'em this is generally placing the exact amount as the original blind i.e if the original blind is 5 he/she could raise it to 10 total. In No limit hold'em the BB can raise all of his/her chips.

Checking, betting, folding is done starting with the first person after the BB. This person has the option of folding, raising, or calling the BB. This then continues with all the players. Players can generally raise a maximum amount according to house rules. This is generally 3 or 4 times per street. Example player A, can raise player B, B raises C, And C raises.

Hope this helps.
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Re: No body could answer this ! ( Check Bet ), PokerDude, 30. Aug 2003 07:14
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A check is the same as someone saying " I choose not to start the betting". If someone bets, they then have the option of folding, calling, or raising(where check raises are allowed). Some places allow unlimited raises when the action is down to two players (heads-up). No more bets are allowed when the pot has been capped, or if at any time all the players in the pot have put in an equal amount of chips. I hope this helps. if you go to www.poker1.com, you should be able to find detailed rules, or you can pick up a copy of Hoyles Rules of Games, if you can find it online or in your area.


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Re: No body could answer this ! ( Check Bet ), MozMan, 30. Aug 2003 10:31
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Answers below:

on 30. Aug 2003 03:25 helly wrote:
> Texas Holdem
> ===========
> CHECK BET WHEN AND HOW
> As nobody could answer about Check option as per my expectations I have tried
> to examplify a game scenario which perhaps could help u understand my prob and
> my understanding. We have learnt poker playing free games at paradisepoker and
> now want to play offlie among us we have no idea how to choose check option.
> There is always a conflict among us while considering check option. Please help
> us...
>
> While watching a game online I have come to these observations that where CHECK
> option can be used to play.
> Please correct me if I am wrong or do add some more possibilities if any about
> CHECK?
>
> 1. A player who has posted BB have the option to check a bet if its his turn
> during first bet round.

Moz: Exaclty; UNLESS his bet has been raised. If someone raises, then the BB must call the raise to stay in the hand, or he must fold.

> 2. If the first player in a betting round chooses check option, every player
> after that has the option to check bet during that round UNLESS if some player
> bets some amount and as a result of that no player after that waiting for bet in
> turn (in the same bet round) has the option to take check option. For example
> Player 1,2,3,4,5 are in turn to bet in 1st bet round. Player 1 gave the BB
> earlier. So he has the option to CHECK. As an effect of this Check player 2 also
> has the option to check. 2 also chooses to Check. Now player 3 Bets for 4$.
> Player 4 and 5 further in turn dont have the option to check but to call bet or
> raise bet.

Moz: Exaclty...

>
> Will Dealer ask player 1 and 2 also to bet now in the same but round, who
> earlier decided to check in the same round, before jumping to next bet round??

Moz: Yes, at this point player 1 and 2 must call the bet or fold before going to the next round.

Look at it this way: In order to move onto the next card/betting round, everyone must have the same amount of money in the pot.

>
>
> Most of the time we r suggested for some books but the fact is Poker Related
> books are not easily available in Asia .
>
>

-Moz

"I'm a well-wisher, in that I don't wish you any specific harm."
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Re: No body could answer this ! ( Check Bet ), PairTheBoard, 31. Aug 2003 00:27
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As I read it you misunderstand the BB and subsequent action. Look at it this way. The BB has made a BET. It is a forced BET in the dark before seeing his cards, ie. a BLIND BET or simply a "BLIND". The remaining players to his left must either call/raise his BET, or fold. There is no check option for any of them. After all players including the Button have called/raised or folded, the Blind is given an OPTION. If no one has raised his blind bet he can either choose to Raise it himself, or not. If he chooses not to raise then the correct technical term for what he does is "KNOCK". It is really an entrirely different thing from a Check, which is why it is more correctly refferred to as KNOCKING. However, the term Check has come into common usage for this optional action for the BB. Of course, if someone has raised the BB's Blind Bet, the BB must respond like anyone else to the right of the raiser, either call/raise or fold when action gets back around to them.

The same concepts apply to the SB, where for example the SB has put in half a Blind Bet. The SB's half bet has been raised to a full bet by the BB so the SB must complete the bet, raise or fold when action gets back around to him.
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