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 Set vs flush question??, cantfoldem, 30. Aug 2003 02:26 | ||
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| I flop a top set and someone else flops the nut flush. Is it correct to raise and re-raise my set on the flop and then again on turn even if the board did not pair? No straight flush possible. Does number of players make a difference say a smaller flush along for the ride. Not to sure about this some advice appreciated. Thanks | ||
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| Re: Set vs flush question??, cantfoldem, 30. Aug 2003 02:40 | ||
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| Also what are the odds of improving on the turn or river? Then if I miss on the turn do the odds change? | ||
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| Re: Set vs flush question??, asnyder, 30. Aug 2003 07:24 | ||
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| > Is it correct to raise and re-raise my set on the flop and then again on turn even if the board did not pair? No straight flush possible. If you have your opponent on a flush, and the board has not paired why would you not fold? A flush beats a set........or am I not understanding your question? | ||
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| Re: Set vs flush question??, Don Hayes, 30. Aug 2003 07:38 | ||
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| You are dead money FOLD, you have to get quads or chase in the hopes the board pairs again for the full house even if a miracle occurs it is a losing propostion long term. If you are chasing hands like that you are giving your money away. | ||
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| Re: Set vs flush question??, Radman, 30. Aug 2003 07:55 | ||
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| It's not dead money with the proper pot odds! and it sounded like this pot had at least 3 players, so you're making money with flop and turn calls here. don't start raising until you hit though. | ||
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| Re: Set vs flush question??, EC, 30. Aug 2003 10:26 | ||
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| Someone correct my math if I'm wrong, but you should be about 2.5:1 to improve by the river. It's one of those weird hands where you have more outs on the river than on the turn. That being said, if you KNOW that someone made the flush, than don't raise/reraise. Take it easy until you improve your hand. You shouldn't be going nuts raising/reraising if you know you're currently beat and whatever hand the other person has is one where they would never fold it. Number of players won't make much of a difference since even with few players your odds should be OK to call. Just don't raise, it will throw your odds out of whack, especially when you inevitably get reraised. Obviously you would want smaller flushes along for the ride for the extra bets. Eli on 30. Aug 2003 02:26 cantfoldem wrote: > I flop a top set and someone else flops the nut flush. > > Is it correct to raise and re-raise my set on the flop and then again on turn > even if the board did not pair? No straight flush possible. > > Does number of players make a difference say a smaller flush along for the > ride. > > Not to sure about this some advice appreciated. > > Thanks > > | ||
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| Re: Set vs flush question??, Roy Cooke, 31. Aug 2003 19:21 | ||
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| Hi Can'tFoldEm You are 2-1 to fill on the flop......If you have three opponents, raising a known flush CAN be correct....Do you understand why that is so?........The odds to fill are less than the number of players in the pot putting in bets.......But since you know you are beat you do not want to reduce the odds you are getting by driving players out....So, I would be careful not to drive players out! If I know they have nut flush....I would tend to just call....You are almost certainly getting reraised and the propensity to knock out other players (Who you want around to give you action if you fill) is high! Raising the turn would be almost never correct! Life is Good ;-) Roy Cooke dem wrote: > I flop a top set and someone else flops the nut flush. > > Is it correct to raise and re-raise my set on the flop and then again on turn > even if the board did not pair? No straight flush possible. > > Does number of players make a difference say a smaller flush along for the > ride. > > Not to sure about this some advice appreciated. > > Thanks > > | ||
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| Re: Set vs flush question??, stdioh, 2. Sep 2003 12:34 | ||
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| If you have a set on the flop you have a 1/3 chance of tightening up. Thus, if you are heads up and *know* that your opponent is on a flush then you will just call. If there are tonnes of people in the hand then you are a money favourite to make your draw so you can mess around with it. | ||
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| Re: Set vs flush question??, Possoff, 3. Sep 2003 17:16 | ||
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| Conficious says: "One who bets on the future...may find he has none." | ||
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| Re: Set vs flush question??, chasepoker, 3. Sep 2003 17:26 | ||
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| David Slansky say "one who bets or calls the set vs the flush with the correct pot odds will make more money than the player who does not " on 3. Sep 2003 17:16 Possoff wrote: > Conficious says: "One who bets on the future...may find he has none." Chasepoker | ||
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