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 session fee chips, stdioh, 28. Aug 2003 12:49 | ||
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| I just had an idea for a promotion to get players into the cardrooms. If a casino were to send coupons in the mail to its regular table games players worth session fees at the tables they would attract lots of new players into the game. They could send out a little "How to play Texas Hold'em" card, a coupon that can be redeemed for a couple of session fees, and an invitation to the cardroom. Then you get Mr. Pai Gow player walking in the door to get a 'free 2 hours of poker' or whatever. As long as you could link it to the guy's frequent player card then you don't have to worry about your pros collecting 100 of the things and not paying you to play. It could really bring in some new money to the poker economy. Anybody like the idea? | ||
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| Re: session fee chips, gary ford, 28. Aug 2003 14:33 | ||
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| Welcome back stdioh and wren----your promotion idea has merit. The sad fact is that most poker rooms/ poker casinos have no interest in or skill at promotion. They are passive in the worst sense. Also you talk session fees while most rooms use the drop system. Couponing, using direct mail is a foreign concept since most roome ive played in dont even have a mailing list. i have never received a mail piece from any cardroom in las vegas and ive lived here for 4 years.Whoever designs a player development and retention system will be able to really capitalize on the poker boom. ( am currently working on a plan ) fuel the boom---Gary | ||
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| Re: session fee chips, stdioh, 29. Aug 2003 16:12 | ||
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| My home casino in Brantford uses session fees and has comp cards that all the slots players and table games need to get comps - and to get one you give them your drivers licence ... with your address. So it might work for them. But I can see how it would fail with standardly raked games. | ||
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| Re: session fee chips, Guru, 28. Aug 2003 15:52 | ||
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| The real problem with the idea is that most casinos don't really want the poker payers. They consider it a low profit margin section for them, hence the replacing cardrooms with slot machines. The absolute last thing they want is to pull people away from other casino games to poker. The other games are big money makers because they favor the house and aren't too labor intensive. | ||
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| Re: session fee chips, 4 POKER, 28. Aug 2003 16:09 | ||
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| It would be great if it could happen, (I love when I see one of those guys walk into the poker room with a stash of orange chips)!......but unfortunately I doubt very much that casino marketing would ever want to take "Mr Pai Gow" away from the tables just to give him a coupon for a couple of free sessions ($) in the poker room. They wouldn't make nearly as much money from him in the poker room, as they are expecting him to lose (over the long haul) at the table games. Besides......as profitable as poker rooms may be......the least amount of profit for the casinos comes from the poker players and IMO they would rather just fill that space up with more dreadful slot machines. Sad for us, but true. | ||
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| Re: session fee chips, gary ford, 28. Aug 2003 20:14 | ||
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| on 28. Aug 2003 16:09 4 POKER wrote: > It would be great if it could happen, (I love when I see one of those guys walk into > the poker room with a stash of orange chips)!......but unfortunately I doubt very > much that casino marketing would ever want to take "Mr Pai Gow" away from the tables > just to give him a coupon for a couple of free sessions ($) in the poker room. They > wouldn't make nearly as much money from him in the poker room, as they are expecting > him to lose (over the long haul) at the table games. Besides......as profitable as > poker rooms may be......the least amount of profit for the casinos comes from the > poker players and IMO they would rather just fill that space up with more dreadful > slot machines. Sad for us, but true. Hi Dave, Agreed but that was then and this is now. The boom in poker has changed the ground rules. Pokeroom revenue is only about 1/3 of what it could be with an integrated marketing plan. Think of the poor, nearly bankrupt ,Horsehoe. For 30 days, poker players from all over the world rented rooms, ate food, drank booze and oh yes played poker and most of them hit the tables as well. It may still be a sellers market at Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods, but it is definitely a buyers market in Las Vegas. One of the collateral problems caused by the boom is a shortage of qualified poker dealers thruought Nevada, Arizona and California. Poker players don't have to ride in the back of the bus forever. Fuel the boom---Gary | ||
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