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 100-200 Om Hi-Lo Question, RTN4, 26. Aug 2003 23:46 | ||
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| You raise first in with A-2-9-10 rainbow and get two callers. The flop comes 6-5-K rainbow. It is a bet and a raise to you. Do you call or fold here? Why? | ||
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| Re: 100-200 Om Hi-Lo Question, 4 POKER, 27. Aug 2003 01:52 | ||
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| Hi, Regardless of the limits here, and especially if the game is a full game.......I wouldn't put in a raise with A-2-9-10 rainbow in an EP, as It's really not that strong of a hand, and in an upfront position, I would limp in, and if the hand got back to me for *any* substantial raises pre-flop, I would also have no problem throwing it away either, especially if your Ace isn't suited. That holding only warrants a limp in that spot as there are just too many players behind you who have yet to act, and I would want to have some volume on a hand like that, along with not wanting the hand to cost me more than it should. If you just chose to limp in instead.....you also could've gotten an overcaller for one small bet to come in with a hand like A-3, A-4, 2-3 (for example), and if you happened to hit your nut low (and it remained clean for you), then *maybe* they would have paid the hand off as well, by also flopping a high hand or draw. (And depending on the caliber of players who are in your game, if you do hit the nut low, it's very possible to see the hand get paid off by weaker low hands as well). *That's where you'll show your profit from when contesting for half of the pot with the Nut Low*! That is why you raised it to begin with right?........the strength of the Ace/duece? (because the rest of the hand is pretty weak IMO). Your hand really needs to be *much stronger* than that to consider raising with it pre-flop, in that spot.........it really does.( It's just too naked, know what I mean)?! And it would be awful if it then got raised and/or reraised by someone behind you as that would leave you (if you *wouldn't* throw it away) putting in so many unnecessary bets with an "unsuited A-2", no back-up for low, and a raggy looking 9........... YUK!!!!!! (just something to consider here because it will and should not be an "always" mandatory raise OR a call with A-2). I think your post-flop play was one that needs to be addressed, as well as your question on whether or not you should be calling raises now on the flop. (That's MHO). So all that being said.........when the flop comes up K-6-5, all you have here is the nut low "draw" with absolutely no protection in your holding on your low if you get counterfeited on the turn.........and you have no draw to the high side of the pot at all. So when the pot is now bet and then raised, I would throw my hand away. "Another flop dilemma":.............You're already aware that there are only three of you in this hand and if you call the 2 bets cold on the flop..........*even* if you do hit the nut low on the turn, if any one of those remaining players holds the low with you, you're going to lose alot of money. You already know that you have no high hand, not to mention the turn didn't even come up yet. Not a spot I'd want to be in, and for that reason alone, I would muck the hand on the flop when it now comes 2 bets cold to me. 4 POKER | ||
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