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 showing cards on the end, chris nelson, 25. Aug 2003 19:36 | ||
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| We got into a debate in a homegame following a hand in which I flopped top set, got into a raising war, turn gave my opponent a str8, and I couldn't redraw. I check called. She showed and then insisted on seeing what I was raising with after I folded. I was aware that in the card rooms in CA, if a player requests to see another players card before they hit the muck the dealer may turn them over. Is this true in cardrooms everywhere? How about the higher limits? What are the exact circumstance in which it is allowed? Also, when did they start allowing this? IMO I think it wrong to show cards. If a player calls my bet then fine but a player that lost the hand shouldn't have to reveal if he/she doesn't want to. Thanks, Chris | ||
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| Re: showing cards on the end, 4 POKER, 25. Aug 2003 20:00 | ||
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| on 25. Aug 2003 19:36 chris nelson wrote: > We got into a debate in a homegame following a hand in which I flopped top set, > got into a raising war, turn gave my opponent a str8, and I couldn't redraw. I > check called. She showed and then insisted on seeing what I was raising with > after I folded. I was aware that in the card rooms in CA, if a player requests > to see another players card before they hit the muck the dealer may turn them > over. Is this true in cardrooms everywhere? How about the higher limits? What > are the exact circumstance in which it is allowed? Also, when did they start > allowing this? IMO I think it wrong to show cards. If a player calls my bet then > fine but a player that lost the hand shouldn't have to reveal if he/she doesn't > want to. > Thanks, > Chris Hey Chris, Anybody who asks to see your cards has the right to see them if you called all bets on the river, HOWEVER..........(at least where I play anyway, AC), if the WINNER of the pot requests to see your hand and for some reason you overlooked your hand and you had that player beat?....the pot will now be rewarded to you as long as your hand is still "live". That rule is for all limits, although I personally hate it when someone asks the dealer to turn over my cards after I just lost the hand......UGH! The next time that happens to you.......Try to toss them in the muck as quickly as possible!.......LOL! | ||
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| Re: showing cards on the end, chris nelson, 25. Aug 2003 20:56 | ||
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| thanks for the response. Just to clarify - if I put in a lot of raises and then fold to a bet on the river they cannot but if I call a bet on the river anyone not involved in the pot has the right to see my cards. Correct me if I misinterpreted you. Thank you, Chris | ||
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| Re: showing cards on the end, Radman, 25. Aug 2003 20:59 | ||
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| That's it Chris. It's almost enough to put ya on tilt, but I try to just laugh it off, and of course ask to see theirs the next chance I get. "play back | ||
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| Re: showing cards on the end, chris nelson, 25. Aug 2003 21:34 | ||
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| i definately was steaming inside. Didn't show it though. I avoid tilt pretty well. May be my only strong point right now | ||
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| Re: showing cards on the end, 4 POKER, 25. Aug 2003 21:23 | ||
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| on 25. Aug 2003 20:56 chris nelson wrote: > thanks for the response. Just to clarify - if I put in a lot of raises and then fold to a > bet on the river they cannot but if I call a bet on the river anyone not involved in the > pot has the right to see my cards. > Correct me if I misinterpreted you. > Thank you, Chris Actually........if you called the last bet on the river, (like I stated earlier), ANYONE who is playing in the game has the right to ask the dealer to see your cards.......not just the players that were involved in the hand........*anyone*. Hope that clarifies your question. Take care, 4P- | ||
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| Re: showing cards on the end, chris nelson, 25. Aug 2003 20:59 | ||
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| I mean if someone wins a pot uncalled at the river can someone request to see the winners cards. Thanks | ||
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| Re: showing cards on the end, 4 POKER, 25. Aug 2003 21:20 | ||
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| No. If a player bets on the end and noone has called, then noone will have the right to ask that player or the dealer for that matter for the request of seeing his cards. | ||
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| Re: showing cards on the end, chris nelson, 25. Aug 2003 21:33 | ||
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| that did it thanks | ||
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| Re: showing cards on the end, trwebb26, 26. Aug 2003 10:11 | ||
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| I've never asked to see cards for a losing hand... I didn't know that you could ask. Is it poor form to ask? Do people get pissed (like old lady's get pissed at the check raise). It seems like a good way to pick up some free information. | ||
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| Re: showing cards on the end, Styx, 26. Aug 2003 10:48 | ||
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| i am shocked to hear that, showing cards should always be a players choice. however, sometimes i show my cards when i lay down a really strong hand just to let the other guy know when i bet strong i have something. and as far as that lady wanting to see your cards she should have been content with the win. | ||
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| Re: showing cards on the end, Eaglesfan1, 26. Aug 2003 12:42 | ||
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| Asking to see peoples cards a lot generally will piss them off, which is good, they will go on tilt. Plus you get information... But the people get pissed... By the Way, I saw on the coverage of the WSOP, Scotty Ngyuen (forget how to spell his last name) was in a hand with sam Farha, Scotty Bluffed him off of his hand with a 3 5 and then Scotty showed his hand to the crowd, Then Farha said let me see the hand, and Scotty said no no, don't show it to him... Im pretty sure the dealer didn't show it to him.... ?? | ||
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| Re: showing cards on the end, Cockpit, 26. Aug 2003 16:24 | ||
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| Right. Because it wasn't a called hand. Scotty bet, Sam folded. | ||
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| Re: showing cards on the end, Harold Pierce, Jr., 26. Aug 2003 13:10 | ||
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| The rule should be that all hands in the showdown must be shown and the dealer should declare the winner of hand. This is to prevent collusion. Altho this is not too much of a problem in low limit home games, it can be at higher limits (i.e., when BB > $10). If I'm in the showdown I want to see the hands because I paid for the information. I always show my hand because on occasion I bluff. MouseEars | ||
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| Re: showing cards on the end, stdioh, 28. Aug 2003 10:55 | ||
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| In most cardrooms any "called hand" can be seen by any player in the hand, but the rules vary between rooms. Generally speaking if you took your hand past the river without mucking it then your opponent has a right to see it. | ||
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