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 playin k 10s question, cantfoldem, 25. Aug 2003 02:40 | ||
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| I`m not sure how to play K - 10s. In a 10 player table online game 3-6 stakes. I`m in 4th or 5th to act one person calls in front of me I call then every one folds behind me SB folds BB checks. Flop comes say Ah,8H,3c. BB checks next guy bets. What should i do? Usallay I call ,thinking its incorrect to draw heads up and a raise may cuase BB to fold granted he might fold anyway. I figure I`m up against ace weak kicker or another draw. | ||
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| Re: playin k 10s question, Swagman, 25. Aug 2003 03:38 | ||
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| Hmm. not understanding you. If your taking about Pocket pairs kk through 10. then you wanna raise to see where everyone is at. if You get called are raised back you have a better understanding of where you stand. If your talking about K,10 holding then Ace is there to make you lose it, and K, 10 is not a hand you wanna gamble with. | ||
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| Re: playin k 10s question, 4 POKER, 25. Aug 2003 03:40 | ||
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| Hi cantfoldem, (I hope that name is just in gest)!............. Just going by your example here, if you're hoding K-10s and the flop comes up A-8-3 with no flush draw potential for you, then why would you call someone who bets? Even if he only has a weak Ace like you said, he is waaay in the lead and you would have to catch perfect-perfect to even stand a chance. I am not fond of K-10 in an early position, though being suited will help a bit, "but" in order to really profit from a holding like that, you must know when to throw it away. If you're going to enter a pot with ANY holding, then make sure the flop hits you hard enough before you risk any more of your chips. 4P- | ||
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| Re: playin k 10s question, Swagman, 25. Aug 2003 03:42 | ||
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| thinking he meant Pocket KKs thro 10s tho. It kinda wierd post and why would he worry about someone folding. If everyone folded to me, I'd be happy camper -). | ||
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| Re: playin k 10s question, 4 POKER, 25. Aug 2003 04:17 | ||
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| Thanks for the clarification Swag.......lol!.......... Anyway, if he/she is questioning how to play Kings "through" Tens......those hands should be raised coming in with, and re-raised if raised in front of you. Okay, pocket Kings is much stronger than pocket Tens, but I find that *most* of the time, I will re-raise someone with any of those pairs (KK, QQ, JJ, and 10-10), UNLESS there are players in between the raiser and myself, then if I held 10-10 I might just opt to call.....but it really depends on the table itself. But Jacks through Kings, I'm raising and re-raising just to eliminate as much of the field as I could. But how you decide to handle the flop when it comes up will be dependant on many things. Overcards.......how many players?........a flop that may be too coordinated now for you to continue.........too much aggresion in front of you.....and the realization now that your pocket pair (no matter how good it looked or was coming in), is just not strong enough to continue, OR...... if you happen to get what looks like a very favorable flop for your hand, *then* you have to know how to play it the best way you can, and sometimes (because there is never one way to play any one given hand after the flop is out)...........you will bet it straight out, sometimes, you'll raise somebody who leads out, etc. etc........because it "depends" on too many things to give one correct way of playing it. What are the tendencies/requirements for your opponent/s to bet out with? Are they overly aggresive, etc.........those things will come into factor as well before you make your own decision on how to proceed with your hand. "Protecting your holding" if you're in the right position to do so, and /or you're almost certain that you do indeed have the best of it here........than by all means, play it in such a way to allow your hand to hold up by trying to elimante some of the players if you feel that your holding may be drawn out on with too many overcallers, OR, you may play it in a way to string someone along if the flop hits you perfect, like flopping a full house or top set with a clean loooking board,etc etc. It depends. But each street (flop, turn, and river), are each separate issues when it comes to making another bet, calling a bet and so on, BUT.....each one of those decisions will be based on how the hand was played out prior to your next sound-minded decision. ALL of the decisions that you make (while putting your opponents on the possible holdings they may have based on your hands strength and/or potential), *have* to be taken into consideration through the entire hand. 4P- | ||
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| Re: playin k 10s question, Angel, 25. Aug 2003 04:12 | ||
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| I'm going to assume that you are talking about having KT suited - in this case suited in hearts. If thats the case - you've flopped the nut flush draw. With two cards to come you are approximately 2:1 against making the flush (1.86:1) or you have 1 chance in three of completing. To make the draw correct you must have at least three people in the pot. Since you have, at most, 3 people in (if the BB calls the bet), you lose nothing by throwing away. Since the BB will throw away some unknown percentage of the time - I would fold here and seek a better opportunity. In no case however would you try to raise the BB out - since you need his call to make your draw even close to profitable. | ||
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| Re: playin k 10s question, Swagman, 25. Aug 2003 04:38 | ||
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| This mysterious post does indicate the possibility of him chasing a flush draw with K,10 sooted. when he makes reference to 'another draw' and also his concern about the BB folding. But anyways he recieved several good answers from both 4poker and Angel, but it probably had nothing to do with what he was asking. | ||
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| Re: playin k 10s question, 4 POKER, 25. Aug 2003 04:39 | ||
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| LOL!.........actually, after re-reading the original post again, I think he really was referring to playing Pocket tens through pocket Kings. (it just seems to make more sense when he was talking about overcards and stuff, no)? Yes?........who knows.......I'm confused now! 4P- | ||
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| Re: playin k 10s question, cantfoldem, 25. Aug 2003 10:53 | ||
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| Sorry about the confuseing post , I did mean king of hearts ten of hearts mabey i`ll try reposting it again with better clarifacation but thanks for the advice anyway | ||
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| Re: playin k 10s question, LJH, 25. Aug 2003 18:34 | ||
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| DEAR CANTFOLDEM, WHAT AR YOU DOING IN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE WITH K10, AND AFTER AN ACE COMES GET OUT. YOU ARE PLAYING WAY TOO LOOSE. LJH | ||
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