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Competition Quality, CMass, 24. Aug 2003 21:53
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I deposited $35 three weeks ago today. I've been keeping track of my playing time and have played almost exactly 21 hours online since then, averaging out to 1 hour/day. I play $.50-$1 NL for the most part, and an occasional session in $1-$2 NL. Maximum buyin is $50 and $100 respectively for those games. In those 21 hours I've turned the initial $35 into $800 which comes out to be about $36/hour.

I've enjoyed playing the game for about 3 years now (never for real until now), and study the game when I get the time, but I by no means consider myself an above average player. I analized my winning hands and don't feel that the $765 profit is misrepresentative of play that I can't sustain. What I mean is, its not just a few oustandingly large wins...it's smart consistent play.

So my question is this. Would it be more profitable to move up to a $3/$6 NL game, knowing that the hands I win will payoff more, but that the competition will be more fierce? I've never played in anything greater than $1-$2 NL. The competition there hemorrhages cash, and I wan't to know if I can expect the same at $3/$6 NL games. I wan't to get a feel for it before I commit.

Thanks
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Re: Competition Quality, Brian462, 24. Aug 2003 22:06
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21 hrs is nothing..........wait until you get to 100. If you are right then at the worst that will happen is you go to $3000..but let's see what happens.
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Re: Competition Quality, Swagman, 24. Aug 2003 23:00
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Something that I have found anyways is that often I make more money from 1/2 then a 3/6 game because the competition is less fierce. So far I have maintained a controled upward winning pace playing 3/6 and less, but I really find that the lower the blinds the more I consistently I win. The pots are bigger in a 5/10 game, but I am in jeapordy of losing more often in them.

Another thing is don't get comfortable because you logged 21 hours and feel like you can maintain that pace, becuase things can go south on you, and they probably will.
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Re: Competition Quality, 4 POKER, 25. Aug 2003 05:35
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Hey CMass,

I think you need to put in a lot more hours than the 21 hours you were basing your good results on. As far as moving up in limits, don't let those previous results mislead you into thinking that you will always be able to show such a good earn. It's not a long enough time spand to show any accuracy whatsoever. One of the reasons why is the short term luck factor that is a big part of this game and it's one that can not be overlooked just to satisfy what we "think" we can earn, because in all reality, short term results are misleading and inaccurate, whether they are positive results or negative.

You also mentioned that you are "by no means an above average player",.........so what you want to do is to be looking now to gain a little more experience *first* before going full speed ahead into a limit that may be too demanding on your bankroll and/or where the caliber of play may be something that you're not ready for yet. Play in the limits where you feel that you are one of the best players in the game and when your own game improves (and that will mean putting in a lot of hours), and your bankroll is also ready to move up.......then take it to the next limit........so on, and so on. Keep records, and find a good comfort zone for yourself, and when you aquire more of the skills that are necessary to move up, then take that step at that time.

Patience ,combined with a strong desire to learn and get better will be a plus for you in this game.

Good luck.



4P-
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Re: Competition Quality, grant pittman, 25. Aug 2003 06:37
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CMass I also agree that you have not played anywhere enough hours to get an accurate measure of what you should make per hour. However, if you are a confident educated player when it comes to no-limit poker you should be able to state with a GREAT DEAL of accuracy whether you will win or not against your opponents. What I mean is that if your opponents are making serious errors and you aren't AND you understand the game well enough to recognize the errors and exploit them you will be in great shape to win in the long run. This is especially true of no-limit betting structure since mistakes are so much more costly. If you are thinking of playing higher I would scope the game for a bit . Pay attention to the amount of preflop betting and the overall aggression of your new potential opponents. Remember that some of the very best poker players I have ever seen remain broke because they play too high for their bankroll. It has nothing to do with their talent and everything to do with the fluctuations in the game. Just a thought. GRANT PITTMAN
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