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 Deep Money / Shallow Money ?, ranwel, 22. Aug 2003 15:29 | ||
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| How should "deep/shallow" money affect your play in NL Holdem Tourny? When a big stack and a small stack are the only ones in a pot, is that considered a shallow money situation for both players? ranwel | ||
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| Re: Deep Money / Shallow Money ?, palman, 22. Aug 2003 15:47 | ||
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| People say that big stacks should pick on the small stacks, but be weary when a REALLY small stack is in a hand, or on a blind that you might otherwise try to steal. I wouldnt get involved in a hand unless you are willing to bet the guys stack on the hand, because small stacks main move is the all-in. The best players to pick on are the average stacks, or slightly below average stacks. This is particularly true with the fewer amount of entrants in a tournament (like a sit n go) and the farther away from the money you are. I like playing hands though as an average stack, against a small stack and a large stack for the following reason, the small stack is likely to go all in, and the large stack is likely going to call figuring the small stack for being weak, and being able to afford to make the call in an attempt to knock out a player. Its best to be in last position, with the short stack first to play in this situation. What you'll even often find is a situation where the small stack goes all in, the big stack makes a huge raise to try to drive you out if he has a piece of the flop, and if you have a monster you're prime for a big payout. Any marginal hand like KQ is a trap here, because if the large player does make the huge raise you're in for a tough decision. I like to play pocket pairs in this situation, because .... A) if the short stacked player goes all in, it can likely be a bluff and your pair is good, and the pot odds are good enough for a call if the large stack folds. B) if the large stack calls, and you have a set, you can likely get more money out of the pot because being in last position against an all in player and another stack is a prime opportunity for a bluff. C) if the large stack raises large and you have your set you're up for a big payout. Flush cards/and other drawing hands have little value, because if you get a draw, the short stack doesnt have enough chips to pay you off if you hit, and the large stack could raise to the point where you don't have the odds of drawing. | ||
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| Re: Deep Money / Shallow Money ?, ranwel, 23. Aug 2003 14:21 | ||
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| palman, Thanks for your toughts on this.I found the information quite helpful. What might you consider the deviding line between deep or shallow money in a NL Holdem tournament? I have heard that 20 times the BB coould be considered as that line. Or should deep/shallow money be determined by just the stack size of those entering the pot? I don't mean to drag this out, but, it is a concept I am having a little trouble with. OR, maybe I am just over analyzing this particular factor. Any help is surely appreciated. Thanks, ran | ||
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