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Pot Odds, Mike812, 22. Aug 2003 13:08 | ||
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| I know there have been massive posts about pot odds but I still confused and lost. I have read all of Paul Samuel's articles, but there are still some areas that are hazy for me. For example, if I hold two suited cards, and I see two more on the flop which gives me 4 parts of the flush. I have a 34.97% chance of making the flush after the flop and the odds against it are 1.86 to 1...What size does the pot have to be for me to call? What about the bet? What if the odds against me were 20 to 1? how would this change things? Thanks a lot Mike | ||
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Re: Pot Odds, grant pittman, 23. Aug 2003 12:19 | ||
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| Mike it looks like nobody took a shot at this post so let me see if I can help. You gave an example of flopping a flush draw. It is approximately 2-1 against you hitting a flush if you see both the turn and river. This means that you must be getting AT LEAST double your money from flop til the river to make it profitable to play. Your calculation INCLUDES counting the money that already exists in the pot from preflop betting. Let's say you are playing 10-20 and three players see the flop for a raise. The pot has $60 in it and you flop a flush draw. One player bets the other folds and it's up to you. The pot contains $70 now(60 preflop and 10 now bet) and it is only $10 to win $70 and you are only 2-1 against to make your flush. Since you are getting 7-1 on your call you call for sure right? Well calling for sure is the right answer but the math is a little out of whack. Remember you are 2-1 against making your flush IF you see BOTH the turn and river cards. If the turn card cost you $10 and the river costs you $20 the correct evaluation will be .... 10 turn +20 river to win 60preflop plus 10 from your opponent on the flop plus 20 from him on the turn PLUS whatever you can get from him on the river. So your true pot odds are you paying $30 after you flopped your draw to win $60+$10+$20+river bets. This works out to a minimum of you getting 3-1 on your money so you will be looking at a great earning potential playing this hand to the river. When your odds are 20-1 against making a hand you need to calculate the pot size and determine if the pot will contain 20 times your probable investment from that time which you determine you odds are 20-1 against winning the hand. So first calculate your odds of winning and then make a calculation of the size of the pot. In general, if the pot is offering you better odds than the odds against you making a winner you proceed and vise versa. I hope this clears things up for you. Good luck!!! GRANT PITTMAN | ||
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