United Poker Forum  

Server Time: 8/30/2008 2:51:51 AM PACIFIC  

aces, tron, 21. Aug 2003 15:33
    View ( Message | Thread )       Return to Thread List
ok, maybe it was not a bad play

100/200 blinds
im utg with 2 red aces
raise to 400, get dam 4 callers.
out comes j 9 4 two clubs.
bet 600 get raised 1200.

40 people pay 1-18.
I move all in.

correct move?
        Return to Thread List
 
 
Re: aces, Schuster, 21. Aug 2003 16:04
    View ( Message | Thread )       Return to Thread List
You failed to mention how many chips you had and if you were a short medium or large stack. You should have raised more preflop, 600 would be appropriate. Then you should have bet more on the flop. With 2000+ in the pot, 600 is too little with a 2 flush on board. Other than that, I'd say it's a function of your opponent who raised. What was your read?

Lee
        Return to Thread List
 
 
Re: aces, Lee Vaughn, 21. Aug 2003 18:50
    View ( Message | Thread )       Return to Thread List
I agree w/ Schuster, that you should have raised more preflop. This makes it a much harder choice for those marginal hands to stay in, and if they do they are making a big mistake. With that small of a raise, almost anyone who has limped in is right to call the raise. That small bet on the flop also looks weak, and again gives anyone on a draw the rights odds to stay in. Your raises should not just be designed to knock people out, but to punish the ones who decide to call. (you want to put them in a position to make the wrong decision) Your raising, but the small amounts make them correct to call. (and potentially out draw you.) I am guessing the raiser on the flop was on a draw and ended up making it? Just a shot in the dark...

Lee
        Return to Thread List
 
 
Re: aces, tron, 21. Aug 2003 19:32
    View ( Message | Thread )       Return to Thread List
Well, thks for inputs. the raiser had JJ
which i was dead. I knew he had better than me
but folding aces on a flop like that was the cost
of getting knocked out.
also i had 7000 in chips which the raiser had
8k. And it was average for the tourney at that time.
tks for input
        Return to Thread List
 
 
Re: aces, Roy Cooke, 22. Aug 2003 07:31
    View ( Message | Thread )       Return to Thread List
Hi Tron

If you knew he had you beat you should have mucked the Aces....The value of a hand is NOT is ranked value...But how it plays against your opponents hand(s) in the situation that is current!

Life is Good :-)
Roy Cooke

on 21. Aug 2003 19:32 tron wrote:
> Well, thks for inputs. the raiser had JJ
> which i was dead. I knew he had better than me
> but folding aces on a flop like that was the cost
> of getting knocked out.
> also i had 7000 in chips which the raiser had
> 8k. And it was average for the tourney at that time.
> tks for input
        Return to Thread List
 
 
Copyright 2002, United Poker Forum  
Getting Started |  UPF Tournaments |  Poker News, Views, Rules |  Poker Strategy & Psychology |  Money and Bankroll
Poker Bonuses & Promotions |  World Series of Poker (WSOP) |  Play Online Poker |  Poker Odds & Statistics |  Tournament Poker |  Poker Books, Videos & Learning Tools
Looking for a Poker Game |  Poker Bad Beats |  Not Quite Poker |  Quizzes and Polls |  Forum Suggestions & Bugs

Interesting Links: Online Poker | Free Poker Games | United Poker Network