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Bad Beat Vent, johnny, 20. Aug 2003 07:39
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Yesterday I paid $15 to see a straight flush when I had Queens full of Jacks and now this. I think I hate QQ more than any other hand now. I almost fell out of my chair. This moron was of course out of the tournament two hands later.

Hand #349387-23 at Wed9amNL-04 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
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Started at 20/Aug/03 09:28:04

dkrobar is at seat 0 with 65.
johnnycakes is at seat 1 with 1000.
RLM is at seat 2 with 3450.
gbp000 is at seat 3 with 2150.
Rocket Man2u is at seat 4 with 3830.
bigdukesix is at seat 5 with 920.
T-Rex-AR is at seat 6 with 3245.
Guinness is at seat 7 with 950.
playacesonly is at seat 8 with 840.
kevintoe is at seat 9 with 1520.
The button is at seat 6.

Guinness posts the small blind of 15.
playacesonly posts the big blind of 30.

dkrobar: -- --
johnnycakes: Qc Qd
RLM: -- --
gbp000: -- --
Rocket Man2u: -- --
bigdukesix: -- --
T-Rex-AR: -- --
Guinness: -- --
playacesonly: -- --
kevintoe: -- --

Pre-flop:

kevintoe calls. dkrobar goes all-in for 65.
johnnycakes re-raises to 270. RLM folds. gbp000
calls. Rocket Man2u folds. bigdukesix folds.
T-Rex-AR folds. Guinness folds. playacesonly folds.
kevintoe calls.

Flop (board: Td Qh 4d):

kevintoe bets 100. johnnycakes goes all-in for 730.
gbp000 folds. kevintoe calls.

Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

dkrobar shows Ts Jh.
johnnycakes shows Qc Qd.
kevintoe shows Kd 5s.


Turn (board: Td Qh 4d Jc):

(no action in this round)
Guinness has disconnected, is dropped.


River (board: Td Qh 4d Jc Ac):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

dkrobar has Ts Jh Td Jc Ac: two pair, jacks and tens.
johnnycakes has Qc Qd Qh Jc Ac: three queens.
kevintoe has Kd Td Qh Jc Ac: straight, ace high.


Hand #349387-23 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
kevintoe wins the main pot 305 with straight, ace high.
kevintoe wins the side pot 2075 with straight, ace high.
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Re: Bad Beat Vent, Slate, 20. Aug 2003 08:54
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Kevintoe should never have called your all-in with no pair or anything.

My biggest worry in nl tournamnets with poor players is them knocking me out by some stupid call and them getting super miracle cards. I had pocket AA and flopped a set of A's. Some idiot called me to the river and made a flush on the turn AND river. The player had 36 offsuit.

Even the big pros are at risk of some stupid player. Maybe not as much in the higher stakes tournamnets.

The only thing I can recommend is tread lightly in the beginning while these poor players get weeded out. Even if you flop a set of QQ do not initiate the all-in. Just small bets and call. I know this may be the wrong play in all the books, but it helps me survive until I can play against some better players later in the tournamnet.
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Re: Bad Beat Vent, Jav, 20. Aug 2003 09:39
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That's definately a bad beat. But one thing you might try is just making a pot-sized bet on the flop. It should fold anyone who would fold to an all-in call. And there are players out there who will read an all-in bet as a bluff attempt at the pot.

But I feel for you. This game can be very frustrating at times. But you just have to remember if there weren't players like that it would be harder to do well over all!
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Re: Bad Beat Vent, BigDukeSix, 20. Aug 2003 12:11
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Just making sure I wasn't a moron!!!!!

just gotta tough it out Johnny
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Re: Bad Beat Vent, TexRoadkill, 20. Aug 2003 16:15
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That sucks. I can't believe he called your bet with a straight draw.
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