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 JJ Question, JonnyC, 18. Aug 2003 08:48 | ||
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| Hello all, Being a new player, a lot of the problems I'm having are coming from mediocure pairs. For instance, i sit down at a NL 10 person game yesterday and get JJ. The blinds were .25/.50, so i bet out two dollars from an early position. I get three callers, two who are after me. Flop comes 4h 6h 10d. I bet three, and i only get one caller, and he is after me. turn comes Qc. What would be the correct play here? I ended up betting three, and was called. River comes Ac. What is the correct play here? I checked ( terrible play by me and one ill never do again), and he bet 20. Any help for me would be appriciated (ridicule accepted). Thanks Jon | ||
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| Re: JJ Question, Slate, 18. Aug 2003 09:37 | ||
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| Tough call at the lower stakes ring games. In a tournament players would be more careful because that is all the chip they have. In a ring game the mentality is they can take chances because they can buy more chips. When the flop came someone might have a heart draw since 2 hearts fell. Otherwise you had top pair. JJ is venerable to overcards as you saw. I would have bet 20+ and most all would fold unless they want to take a chance and fish. At the flop you had the winning hand. By betting 3 you gave that person a chance to see what else falls since they had decent pocket cards. If I had AK and the flop came like it did and you bet 20. I would fold to fight again since I would think you had a set or something. It also depends on your position, in late position with small or no raises you can pump it with some certainty. Hope this helps a little, all in all JJ are tough pocket cards to play because of the over cards. | ||
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| Re: JJ Question, Jav, 18. Aug 2003 09:46 | ||
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| Playing JJ is definately tough in NL. The hand has a good chance of holding up without improvement if you can make sure you are only playing against 1 or 2 opponents. Otherwise you pretty much need to hit a set to win. So depending on your position, the type of players you are playing against, etc, you need to play it different. Generally you want to raise enough to limit yourself to 1 or 2 opponents. If you think that more will call your raise (I would raise approximately the size of the pot or 3 or 4 times a big bet), then you are better off just limping in. You have to be aware of what kinds of flops you want to see. You generally want a flop with no overcards, and preferably no straight or flush draws. Or you want a jack. When you got your flop, you have to be thinking that you probably have the best hand, but it is very vulnerable to both the flush draw and overcards. So right then you want to bet enough to make sure anyone on a draw is getting bad odds to continue. So this is when you want to make a pot-sized bet. On the flop, the pot-sized bet should be enough to keep most players from drawing out on you, but it's not so big that you can't get away from it if you need to. You might have won the pot right there with a pot-sized bet. | ||
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