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Looking For NL tourney strategy, AcesUp5, 13. Aug 2003 02:49
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I consider myself, like many others, a very good no limit player. Have had very much success in live no limit tournies in vegas and chicago. And over the last past four months, I cant even finish in the money or somewhat close. I've played alot of UB tournies and a couple live tournies lately, and I just feel like my play is not good anymore. Dont know if its just bad luck, or bad play. Like tonight I played in a rockford charity no limit tourney. Wasnt doing to bad, had about 1800 in chips, started with 300, when the following hand came up. A player raises 500 with the blinds at 100-200. Now ive noticed his play and its been horrible. Raising with A2 and K4 suited, so i look down at 99 and decide to go all in. Normally i wouldnt go all in but figured this player to be weak again. He turns over QQ and i get smoked for all my chips. Just feel like i cant do anyrhing right and everything is against me. I finally isolate this player and he has a monster. Just my luck. So I think I need to tweek my strategy for no limit tournies. And was wondering if i could get some sound advice and maybe even a written strategy that a successfull tourney player uses. Thanks

Josh
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Re: Looking For NL tourney strategy, CanadianGTP, 13. Aug 2003 10:24
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I think we are all looking for a winning strategy. I just got the book championship NL/PL Hold 'Em. I have heard it is a good book. As for your beat, looks like just bad luck.
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Re: Looking For NL tourney strategy, stdioh, 13. Aug 2003 16:14
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The problem with a hand like 99 is that it's not a very big favourite over hands like A2 and K2s ... and it's pretty much a coin flip with hands like TJ, etc. The only hands it really has dominated are 22-88 and live undercards. He can't be dumb enough that he's holding 27 here and if he has something like small suited connectors, their domination isn't that great even. Chances are that you'll looking at only a slight advantage and you should really just see a flop and go from there.
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Re: Looking For NL tourney strategy, AcesUp5, 14. Aug 2003 11:15
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Thanks man and I understand what your saying about 99. My question is with only 1800 in chips and blinds at 100-200 increasing every 15, how much longer can you wait for a good hand. I figure about 3-4 rounds, and at that time I felt 99 may be the last hand I get. Sooner or later I need to make a move. What do you think? Maybe this is a flaw in my play!! Maybe I get a little to worried about my chip count and how many hands I might get before I get blinded out. Let me know what you think!!!!!
Josh
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Re: Looking For NL tourney strategy, chasepoker, 14. Aug 2003 11:26
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With T1800 left and the blinds at 100/200 i would be looking to go all in a lot sooner than 3 or 4 rounds, when i say go all in i mean raise all in not call all in ( ie be the first one in the pot ), as long as the payout was normal and you were not in the places were moving up one or two positions meant a lot more money.

If you are looking at winning you need to find positions where if you do double up you are then ' safe ' from being anted away and a position where you can steal blinds and not be pot commited if you get re-raised all in; ( i think usually at least 10-11 times the big blind presuming you raise 3x BB as a steal ). Personaly i would even take a risk to ensure i was in this position maybe it's just my style of play but i dont like being in a position in a NL tourny where:
a) i am pot committed the next hand i play
b) if i double up i am in no better situation than before ( ie you double from T800 to T1700 in this situation - i would much prefer to take a chance of doubling up from T1500-1800 to T3100-3700 where i can then play again ! )
c) i am forced ( due to pot odds) to call on my big blind against a potential steal raise form button/cut off.

I beleive that NL tournys are all about being selective aggressive.
Cheers
CP

on 14. Aug 2003 11:15 AcesUp5 wrote:
> Thanks man and I understand what your saying about 99. My question is with only 1800 in
> chips and blinds at 100-200 increasing every 15, how much longer can you wait for a good
> hand. I figure about 3-4 rounds, and at that time I felt 99 may be the last hand I get.
>
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Re: Looking For NL tourney strategy, Mark Gregorich, 14. Aug 2003 14:43
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I don't think you made any mistakes on the hand in question. You should definitely play the two nines here, due to the fact that you figure to be a pretty decent favorite over the range of hands your opponent is likely to hold. The only question is rather to call his raise or move all-in.
I would move all-in here, for a couple of reasons:
a. you probably hold the best hand, and don't mind a call so much
b. (most importantly) you may have just enough chips to get this player to fold some of his hands - such as QT or KT, which are close to coin flips against 99.
If you just call and this player is as wild as you say, he'll probably bet the rest of your chips on the flop anyway, and you'll have to guess what to do (I would have trouble folding my hand postflop against this player unless the flop came something like AKQ).

As for your poor recent results, remember that poker is an incredibly streaky game in the short-term (and the short term isn't that short!!!!!!). Grant Pittman's recent post entitled "Dont fix it if it isn't broken" does a great job addressing this. Keep working to improve your game, and strive to make the correct play given the situation, and maintain your confidence that things will change for the better. If you keep working on your game, they certainly will.
Mark

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Re: Looking For NL tourney strategy, stdioh, 15. Aug 2003 13:59
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With blinds of 100-200 and no antes, you have oodles of time. I'm not saying you need to throw your 99 away, but with a stack of 1800 you don't need to shove in with it either. You can still play post flop poker here.
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