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 Maximize Bets, magnus, 12. Aug 2003 13:43 | ||
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| I know I got too eager on this hand, but what would be the best way in playing it? LLHE ($0.5/1) Online. I had just played a couple of hands at the table when this hand came. I'm in BB with 5 other players. I get 9cJh. MP, LP, SB limps, I get a free flop. Flop comes 7c8c10c, flopped a str8. I bet, MP raises (hmmm, reading a flush!), LP calls and I call (not being sure about the players yet). Turn is Jc (str8 flush for me, current nuts!), gets excited and bets out. MP calls and LP folds. River is a rag so the pot is mine. Bets again and MP calls. I win with my str8 flush against his K high flush. (This is the first str8 flush I had in my (brief) poker life, so I was quite excited. Good thing it was online...) Analyzing this hand, I realized I didn'd maximize my profit, so I'm wondering what would be the right way to play a hand like this (or similar hand) when you are a big favorite over somebody that has a great hand, but not quite as good? -Magnus | ||
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| Re: Maximize Bets, longshot3, 12. Aug 2003 13:54 | ||
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| i flop the straight in that situation in a low limit game, i'm raising right then and there.. i'm capping out betting because there is a good chance the he is going to do the same. however, only does he know that you are holding the nuts. if you bet the flopped straight hard and win the pot, his flush may beat you.. you need to get all bets in in a low limit game. according to mr. lee jones | ||
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| Re: Maximize Bets, stdioh, 12. Aug 2003 17:01 | ||
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| First of all, when you flop the straight on a scary board like that, you really don't want players to draw to a flush that beats you if they aren't there already. In this case, since you're in the BB I would go for a checkraise. Somebody is almost certain to bet at the hand and when you checkraise, you're saying, "I have a flush made already." This is going to fold off players holding a single suited card and even players with a pair and a suited card since now they figure that their pair isn't any good even if it improves and they need a flush to win, but you've taken away their odds to draw for it. The trick is getting people with a club higher than your nine to exit the pot fast. I usually checkraise in this situation. Now when you hit your straight flush it isn't just the current nuts, but is as close as you can get to the eternal nuts. The only hand that beat you is somebody holding QcKc who also manages to spike an Ac on the river. There's no point in worrying about this. Had you checkraised, the proper move would be to bet out here and hope that somebody with a big club tries a raise (really only the Ac will raise you here) or at least calls along. If you just bet out and called a raise as you did then you definitely want to play the turn slow because somebody is going to be at this pot right now unless nobody has a club at all. You're golden and this is definitely the right time to checkraise. In the worst case, nobody bets it, but the chances are really good that somebody will. You get in your checkraise and then you lead on the river. | ||
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| Re: Maximize Bets, sburne, 13. Aug 2003 06:08 | ||
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| You did the best that's possible. The Kc isn't pushing because the Ac is out there to beat him. Straight Flushes need full houses to generate a lot of money. | ||
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| Re: Maximize Bets, magnus, 13. Aug 2003 11:01 | ||
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| Thanks for all your insights. I guess I still have to learn to be more aggressive, even if I'm much better that a month ago (thanks to you guys!) Thinking back to the hand, I think capping the flop would have been the optimum. The guy with the made flush (King high) would have helped me with that. Then a check-raise on the turn (faking mid-suited clubs that got scared off the 4th club on the board) would have gotten some additional bets. I would think the K high flush would not manage to lay it down... If I managed to get the flop capped it would be another 5 SB (if I calculated it right) in the pot and with a check-raise another 2 BB. Ohh, well, you live an learn.... -Magnus | ||
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