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A few rules I need clarified..., ezcheese, 8. Aug 2003 11:08
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I'm looking for clarification about a few rules...

First, how does betting work exactly? In 1/2, you can only bet $1 on the flop, but can raise $2?? Or can you bet $2 if it was raised pre-flop? But can you only raise $1 pre-flop?? Please help I'm sooo confused...

Second, if there is a flush on the board, and the two players in the game each have a suited card higher than the lowest flush card on the board, does those hole cards go into play?? I thought so but my friends argue... I say that a AKJ93 flush is higher than a AKT93 flush... but they said that a Ace High Flush is an Ace High Flush no matter the rest of the cards... but if this is the case... then if you are playing high card (both players have busted draws) and each player has an ace... you go to the second hole card if it's higher than the board?

Thanks for helping out a newbie.
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Re: A few rules I need clarified..., mkpoker, 8. Aug 2003 11:13
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on 8. Aug 2003 11:08 ezcheese wrote:
> I'm looking for clarification about a few rules...

Finally, a question I can answer!
>
> First, how does betting work exactly? In 1/2, you can only bet $1 on the flop, but can raise $2?? Or can you bet $2 if it was raised pre-flop? But can you only raise $1 pre-flop?? Please help I'm sooo confused...

1/2 means you can bet $1 before the flop and on the flop. The stakes increase to $2 on the turn and river. If someone bets $1 on the flop and you want to raise, you can only raise by $1 (which means you're putting $2 into the pot). All raise increments are $1 on the flop and before and $2 on the turn and river. If the pot has already been raised, and you want to re-raise, again, you can re-raise by $1 only (in the early betting rounds). So if someone bets and it's raised to you, and you want to reraise, you'd put $3 into the pot (a $1 raise on top of the $1 raise on top of the original $1 bet). And one more tip. If you want to raise in these situations, make sure you say "raise," so there's no confusion about what you're doing.

Everything doubles on the turn and river. If someone bets $2 on the river and you want to raise, you can only raise by $2, which means you put a total of $4 in the pot.
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> Second, if there is a flush on the board, and the two players in the game each have a suited card higher than the lowest flush card on the board, does those hole cards go into play?? I thought so but my friends argue... I say that a AKJ93 flush is higher than a AKT93 flush... but they said that a Ace High Flush is an Ace High Flush no matter the rest of the cards?

You are right and your friends are wrong. Your five best cards play, and they *all* play. An AKT94 flush beats an AKT93 flush.

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> Thanks for helping out a newbie.

No problem. This is a great forum. Ask whatever you'd like.
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Re: A few rules I need clarified..., MozMan, 8. Aug 2003 11:18
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Hey ez-

My response below:

on 8. Aug 2003 11:08 ezcheese wrote:
> I'm looking for clarification about a few rules...
>
> First, how does betting work exactly? In 1/2, you can only bet $1 on the flop,
> but can raise $2?? Or can you bet $2 if it was raised pre-flop? But can you only
> raise $1 pre-flop?? Please help I'm sooo confused...

All betting rounds are separate. In a 1/2 game, the first two betting rounds (pre-flop and flop) all bets are $1, and all raises are in $1 increments. So the BB is $1, and if you raise, you must raise only $1; if it has already been raised $1, you can then raise another $1, and so on, until the cap (usually 4 bets). This starts over again on the flop, regardless of how high the betting got before the flop. So even if the betting went to $4 before the flop, if you are first in on the flop, you can only bet $1. Turn and river work the same way, except that it is in increments of $2 ($2 bet, $2 raise, etc).

> Second, if there is a flush on the board, and the two players in the game each
> have a suited card higher than the lowest flush card on the board, does those
> hole cards go into play?? I thought so but my friends argue... I say that a
> AKJ93 flush is higher than a AKT93 flush... but they said that a Ace High Flush
> is an Ace High Flush no matter the rest of the cards... but if this is the
> case... then if you are playing high card (both players have busted draws) and
> each player has an ace... you go to the second hole card if it's higher than the
> board?

No, you are right. Each player makes the best possible 5-card hand. So if the board has Ah 3h 2h in it, and you have Jh Th, and your opponent has 9h 8h, then you win; your flush is bigger than his flush (you have AJT32h he has A9832h).

> Thanks for helping out a newbie.

No problemo! That's why this forum is here. :)

-Moz

"Yeah, I've made up your mind."
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To Moz and MK, ezcheese, 8. Aug 2003 11:25
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Thank you guys for your responses, I respect both of your opinions tremendously on these forums, because you have proved time and again to be right on the money w/ your advice, but have also admitted your own flaws to not be condescending...

If it's not too much trouble, would you mind posting on my earlier thread about Caro's Tell Merchandise? I'm interested to know how you guys feel about it.
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Re: To Moz and MK, mkpoker, 8. Aug 2003 15:22
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on 8. Aug 2003 11:25 ezcheese wrote:
> Thank you guys for your responses, I respect both of your opinions tremendously on these forums, because you have proved time and again to be right on the money w/ your advice, but have also admitted your own flaws to not be condescending...

If it's not too much trouble, would you mind posting on my earlier thread about Caro's Tell Merchandise? I'm interested to know how you guys feel about it.

Aw Geez, now cut that out.

Seriously, I think the videos help demonstrates the concepts more clearly, but if you're just starting out, I'd suggest that trying to sniff out tells isn't energy well spent. You need focus on your cards and making solid basic plays. My personal favorite "beginners" book is Ken Howards' "Low Limit Hold 'Em." Most prefer Lee Jones, but I think Howard is a marginally better writer.

Once you've mastered profitable "by the book" play, then go to Caro's tells. Just my HO
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Re: To Moz and MK, MozMan, 8. Aug 2003 15:28
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ex-

I posted a reply in the other thread for ya.

-Moz

"Yeah, I've made up your mind."
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Re: A few rules I need clarified..., stdioh, 8. Aug 2003 14:03
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You are right on the flush question. Start comparing cards in the hand, highest to lowest until one differs. The player with the higher of the differing cards wins. Just make sure that all your cards play.

For instance, if the board is AhKhJh9h5h and you are holding 6h and your opponent is holding 7h then the 7h wins - if you are holding 2h and your opponent is holding 3h then you would share it as you are both playing the board.

As for your limit question in 1-2 limit it is $1 preflop, $1 on the flop, $2 on the turn, and $2 on the river. It might look like somebody is raising $2 if there is a reraise. For instance you could see SB - $0.50, BB - $1, UTG - raise to $2, player 4 - raise to $3.

Don't confuse this with spread limit games where players can bet anything within a given range.
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