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 Tournament Play, Ron, 6. Aug 2003 18:10 | ||
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| I consider myself a pretty good ring player, but in larger tournaments I haven't faired so well. What would you suggest? Limp & see a lot of flops, play tight & aggressive when I think I have the goods, or what? I appreciate all responses. Have fun. | ||
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| Re: Tournament Play, Allyc, 6. Aug 2003 18:49 | ||
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| 'Play Poker Like the Pros' by Phil Hellmuth has a couple of useful chapters. | ||
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| Re: Tournament Play, Matt Steele, 6. Aug 2003 21:14 | ||
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| I have only read one book devoted to Tournaments. It is Sklansky's Tournament Poker for Advanced Players. I think there are great concepts in it that are not hard to grasp (and if I can anyone can!) My tournament play improved and I made 2 final tables shortly after that in the cardroom I play at. His "Gap Concept" was what really helped me the most. Maybe there are better tournament books but hopefully it helps. And if anyone out there can suggest other good tournament books to me or Ron, I would also appreciate it. | ||
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| Re: Tournament Play, TKarrde, 7. Aug 2003 11:25 | ||
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| I have heard the phrase "gap concept" before. What exactly is it? TKarrde "The next best thing to playing and winning, is playing and losing." | ||
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| Re: Tournament Play, asnyder, 7. Aug 2003 11:45 | ||
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| on 7. Aug 2003 11:25 TKarrde wrote: > I have heard the phrase "gap concept" before. What exactly is it? Sklansky wrote: "The difference between the hand you need to call an opener with, and that with which you would open yourself, I call the 'Gap.' ... in a tournament, this Gap is often extremely high. In other words, in a tournament it is often right to open raise with hands far inferior to those with which you would need to call someone else who open raised. ..." Feel free to interpret....... | ||
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| Re: Tournament Play, stdioh, 7. Aug 2003 08:56 | ||
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| The most important thing that differentiates a tourney from a ring game is stack size. You need to look at stack sizes and adjust your game accordingly. When you're a desperately small stack you should be raising all in to steal or get called and take a shot with hands like A8o or 66. Likewise, when you are a comfortable stack (should be most of the tourney) you can play loose weak. What I mean by that is, if the blinds are small enough that there are lots of players in each hand (at the start for example) you can afford to see a lot of flops and try to catch a monster hand. Later, when the limp is too expensive for you, you'll want to tighten up and generally only play hands that are worth raising with. If you have a giant stack late in the tournament then you might stop playing all but the best hands, hoping to coast into the money and *then* try to win. Basically you need to think of things this way: 1) Survival is paramount. Much better to survive with your chips than risk losing them. 2) The more chips you have, the less each one is worth. 3) Bully those without the freedom you have. By that, I mean, if you've got an ok stack and you're in a hand against a player with 1/8 of your stack there's no reason you can't play against him *very* agressively, since losing won't change much for you and winning won't change much for you, but when you win you get the added benefit of eliminating a player - essentially you can afford to gamble. Since he can't afford to gamble, you'll be able to fold him pretty easilly and you can start robbing short stacks this way...as long as you don't pick on the stacks so small that they are ready to "double up or get up" ... long story short, ring games and tournaments are very different games, but if you learn to play tournaments well they can be a lot of fun. | ||
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