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 Avoiding traps, SoCalPat, 2. Aug 2003 20:20 | ||
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| Twice in the last two days, I've had Q6 in the BB and gotten a free play in SnG's at Paradise The first time, the flop came AQ6. An EP limper came in for 100, I went all-in, putting him on a single ace. He had AA, and I was done. Tonight, I get a free play, flop comes KQ7. I bet to test the waters vs. a field of three, one calls, two fold. Turn comes 6, I go all-in, only to be shown KK. Those are just an example. I find myself playing too aggressively with pretty good holdings. Is this just a matter of bad timing, or does anyone have any advice on taking the foot off the gas? Certainly, when I have a good hand, I don't want to let my opponents draw cheaply, or get a showdown without having to make tough decisions. How do you balance the two? | ||
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| Re: Avoiding traps, DJpoker, 2. Aug 2003 23:37 | ||
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| > Twice in the last two days, I've had Q6 in the BB and gotten a free play in SnG's at Paradise. The first time, the flop came AQ6. An EP limper came in for 100, I went all-in, putting him on a single ace. He had AA, and I was done. Hey Pat, No idea what stage of the SnG you were at, but if you are BB, I assume that means you are first to act after the flop. Q6 loses to AA, QQ, AQ, A6, 66 and is barely a favorite over A-anything. A feeler bet would probably have been most appropriate. As I say this, again i have no idea how many people are left, stack size, etc. but I definitely wouldn't push all-in without testing the waters on this one. > > Tonight, I get a free play, flop comes KQ7. I bet to test the waters vs. a field of three, one calls, two fold. Turn comes 6, I go all-in, only to be shown KK. Again, you are not boss. KK, KQ, K7, QQ, Q7, 77, 66 all have you beat. I think another decent size bet would be in order. I agree that you can't just sit on your butt. If people are slowplaying to trap you, there isn't much you can do, but if there are that many hands that can beat you, why risk all the chips. Here at least you are in top 3. > > Those are just an example. I find myself playing too aggressively with pretty good holdings. Is this just a matter of bad timing, or does anyone have any advice on taking the foot off the gas? Certainly, when I have a good hand, I don't want to let my opponents draw cheaply, or get a showdown without having to make tough decisions. How do you balance the two? Just keep plugging away. Make notes and analyze all of the hands you play. Aggressive is the only way to play this game. Just make it controlled aggression :) Good luck, Djpoker | ||
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| Re: Avoiding traps, EC, 4. Aug 2003 13:39 | ||
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| I think this is something of a psychology lesson- the hand you describe is what I call a "lucky flop" hand. Basically, you get a free look with a mediocre hand that happens to hit the flop quite well, but since it did you probably got overly excited about it when in fact it's a good hand that can be easily beat. In my case I've caught myself overvaluing these "lucky flop" hands just because I wasn't expecting a flop to hit me and was very pleasantly surprised when it did. So to echo DJ, I would say use some caution, and try to look objectively at the hand you hold and realize that it may be very good, but it's far, far from a sure thing. Eli on 2. Aug 2003 23:37 DJpoker wrote: > > Twice in the last two days, I've had Q6 in the BB and gotten a free play in SnG's > at Paradise. The first time, the flop came AQ6. An EP limper came in for 100, I went > all-in, putting him on a single ace. He had AA, and I was done. > > Hey Pat, > No idea what stage of the SnG you were at, but if you are BB, I assume that > means you are first to act after the flop. Q6 loses to AA, QQ, AQ, A6, 66 and is > barely a favorite over A-anything. A feeler bet would probably have been most > appropriate. As I say this, again i have no idea how many people are left, stack > size, etc. but I definitely wouldn't push all-in without testing the waters on this > one. > > > > Tonight, I get a free play, flop comes KQ7. I bet to test the waters vs. a field > of three, one calls, two fold. Turn comes 6, I go all-in, only to be shown KK. > > Again, you are not boss. KK, KQ, K7, QQ, Q7, 77, 66 all have you beat. I think > another decent size bet would be in order. I agree that you can't just sit on your > butt. If people are slowplaying to trap you, there isn't much you can do, but if > there are that many hands that can beat you, why risk all the chips. Here at least > you are in top 3. > > > > Those are just an example. I find myself playing too aggressively with pretty good > holdings. Is this just a matter of bad timing, or does anyone have any advice on > taking the foot off the gas? Certainly, when I have a good hand, I don't want to let > my opponents draw cheaply, or get a showdown without having to make tough decisions. > How do you balance the two? > > Just keep plugging away. Make notes and analyze all of the hands you play. > Aggressive is the only way to play this game. Just make it controlled aggression :) > Good luck, Djpoker | ||
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