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 When limp-reraising goes all wrong., stdioh, 1. Aug 2003 09:51 | ||
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| I was playing in a UB aruba satelite with the top 2 places paying a supersatelite buy in and things got interesting. I didn't play a hand for about 15 hands and then I got AA UTG. The table had been both agressive and loose, so there was almost always a raise preflop and lots of caller to that raise. I decided to limp reraise with my AA. My hope was that I would get a raise after me followed by callers and then I could push all in and either trap one sucker or just take all the money that was on the table. The player to act after me raised a standard raise and another player to act after him made a minimum reraise. A fourth player cold called and the blinds folded. Yikes, I thought, shoving all in, hoping to only get one caller. All four came in and I was pretty scared. That said, remember what everybody says about the value of aces in a multiway hand? The hands that will come in with a raise are the ones that you have most badly dominated. The original raiser had QQ and was drawing to 2 outs. The reraiser had AKo and was drawing dead to 2 kings at a 1000:1 shot as the remaining king was held by JKo who needed to hit 2 of 5 outs. I took down the pot and just about quadrupled through. The simple lesson there is that when you've got AA in early position in a very agressive game, the limp reraise can work out really, really well. Had I just raised, I might have had 3 callers and had to play well on the flop. The sat part of this story is that I came in third place. I've played 6 aruba satelites so far. 5 of them paid a single entry and in 2 of them I came second badbeatedly and the remaining one paid 2 entries and I busted in third. I'm thinking that nomatter my luck I'm never going to get to Aruba. | ||
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| Re: When limp-reraising goes all wrong., 4 POKER, 1. Aug 2003 10:10 | ||
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| Well the AK and the QQ still could've flopped a straight or straight draw leaving them with more then just 2 outs pre-flop, no? Nonetheless, their holdings compared to yours were definitely going to have to flop absolutely perfect where your AA was by far the favorite considering you really dominated those other holdings. I think I'd rather have 2 rag cards or two connecting lower cards like 6-5 then to be sitting there with QQ or AK. Nice break for you with the best hand. Did you push all-in pre-flop? (wasn't sure if that's what you said). Anyway, if you don't get to Aruba through via poker satellites, there's always cheap tickets.com! Don't let it stand in your way. | ||
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| Re: When limp-reraising goes all wrong., stdioh, 1. Aug 2003 13:18 | ||
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| Yes, I limped and then reraised all in and all 4 of us saw the flop though there was still action between two of them on the flop when they all ended up all in. As for worying about a straight, AK can't make a straight without a queen so I'd have lost to QQ for that to happen anyway. Same goes for KJ unless the board makes a straight to the T. I'm not about to worry about 4 straights and 4 flushing hitting the board - if randomly horrible stuff like that happens, it is just part of the equation and that sort of thing gets balanced by my redraws anyway. | ||
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| Re: When limp-reraising goes all wrong., Eaglesfan1, 1. Aug 2003 10:19 | ||
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| I had the same situation in a tournament recently. I was becoming shortstacked pretty bad. I had about 2 BB's left. I was on the Big Blind and thank god the Aces come. 5 limped in before me and I shoved all in... It wasn't much more for the others to call... Some guy that already folded told everyone to call. Well Everyone folded and that surprised me. I thought at least 1 of those 5 would call. Then I revealed the Aces to the guy that was preaching call and said... "Yeah Call me"... Then everyone said that was a really bad play... But I almost tripled up... My stack went up by 250%... And I revealed the aces to show people that when I go all in I have a hand. So I could steal blinds later on... | ||
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| Re: When limp-reraising goes all wrong., Dr_Monkey, 1. Aug 2003 11:03 | ||
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| > I came second badbeatedly Now that is a descriptive way to describe your tournament results. That should be in the poker terms dictionary. | ||
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| Re: When limp-reraising goes all wrong., mroban, 1. Aug 2003 13:09 | ||
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| stdioh - its funny, i have been lamenting the same fate. I figure I can legitimize my obsessive poker playing in the eyes of my wife if I can win a trip to Aruba. I have played 7 now (6 $11 and 1 $22). For a total investment of almost $90. I have finished 4-4-3-4-4-3 (sensing a pattern?) in the $11 and, uh, dead last in the $22 (got all in with AA and was busted by an AK - yep, 2 KK on the flop and my ace came on the river giving him a full house). Perhaps paying the $100 is worth it and less frustrating. One more good night of ring action and I am going for it. Then we can tell sad tales of getting busted out of the $100 satellite 3 places from Aruba. | ||
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| Re: When limp-reraising goes all wrong., stdioh, 1. Aug 2003 13:21 | ||
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| My rule for playing Aruba games is that I only play with profit on top of my UB roll ... so if I keep losing them I have to win more money in ring games and sit-n-gos to play more. I think that is reasonable rather than just cashing out a cheque. I don't feel too bad about it. And I figure that in a supersatelite I'd have about a 1/30 chance or better of winning the trip (1 in 60 players win the trip). | ||
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