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PRO VS AMATEUR, mrbippy, 31. Jul 2003 15:13
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Regarding a previous post about ESPN's bias towards the amateur vs the pro, what actually defines the two? What line does one cross to get to the other side?

Just curious.
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Re: PRO VS AMATEUR, tpir90036, 31. Jul 2003 15:43
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not to be flip, but a pro is just that....someone who does it professionally, i.e. for a living. poker is his/her job and a major source (possibly their only source) of income.

people get bugged by the slant on ESPN because they seem to imply that non-pros are dead money. in actuality though amateur does not automatically mean dead money (e.g. the past two WSOP winners). it just means they have a day job :)
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Re: PRO VS AMATEUR, gary ford, 31. Jul 2003 16:03
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on 31. Jul 2003 15:43 tpir90036 wrote:
> not to be flip, but a pro is just that....someone who does it professionally, i.e.
> for a living. poker is his/her job and a major source (possibly their only source)
> of income.
>
> people get bugged by the slant on ESPN because they seem to imply that non-pros are
> dead money. in actuality though amateur does not automatically mean dead money (e.g.
> the past two WSOP winners). it just means they have a day job :)

Don't blame ESPN---they didn't invent "dead money " the " pros" did .
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Re: PRO VS AMATEUR, e-babes, 1. Aug 2003 11:30
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Hi. I think a major difference is treating it as work. Keeping records, establishing a bankroll....quitting your day job. Playing 10/20 or higher.....

I would love to quit my job for a poker career, but it don't look easy.
I think it's a huge game on the mind....psychology is king....surviving bad beats.....not going on tilt...........
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Re: PRO VS AMATEUR, stdioh, 1. Aug 2003 13:35
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A pro plays poker for a living. An amateur plays poker as a sideline, a second job, or for recreation. Oftentimes the term semi-pro is used for a player (such as myself) who has a day job, but logs a lot of hours in the cardroom and treats it like a second job.

In the US, you can file your taxes as a professional gambler and that allows you to deduct for work related expenses such as meals, gas, and losses at the tables, however in order to be classes as a pro you need to have been playing professionally with gaming as your major source of income for 5 years, 3 of which have to have been profitable.
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Re: PRO VS AMATEUR, 4 POKER, 2. Aug 2003 00:32
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Mrbibby,

The difference is.......a pro makes his living strictly from just playing poker......it's his "PRO'fession like any other job would be.

An amateur is someone who does not make his living from playing poker, probably has another job and could also be a very good player as well, but they can also be players who are just playing for recreational purposes and may not be as skilled as the player who plays for his livelyhood.

To cross the line from amateur to pro means that you'll be supporting yourself entirely from just playing poker......... or you can play as a semi-pro where you will also hold down another job and just play poker as to suppliment your already existing income.

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