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 3-card poker??, ezcheese, 30. Jul 2003 23:00 | ||
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| My boss just said that there is some new "3-card poker" game that is being played in vegas and is supposed to be very popular... myth or fact? | ||
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| Re: 3-card poker??, Waddy, 30. Jul 2003 23:17 | ||
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| 3-card poker has been around for awhile, I used to be a pit boss and it is a good game for the player - just play the pair plus | ||
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| Re: 3-card poker??, tpir90036, 31. Jul 2003 08:26 | ||
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| this game is played against the dealer only and can be pretty darn fun if you are at a social table. if you bet the pair plus and only back your ante on Q-6-4 and above the house edge is only 3%-ISO. which in the grand scheme of casinos ain't too bad at all ;) | ||
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| So How Do You Play?, ezcheese, 31. Jul 2003 09:17 | ||
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| So umm... how do you play? | ||
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| Re: So How Do You Play?, Jav, 31. Jul 2003 09:35 | ||
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| It's a typical table game giving the casino about 3.5% house edge if you play it right. If you want detailed info on how to play, and odds calculation, try www.wizardofodds.com. This is a great site for general casino gaming information. http://www.wizardofodds.com/games/threecardpoker.html | ||
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| Re: So How Do You Play?, 4 POKER, 31. Jul 2003 10:09 | ||
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| on 31. Jul 2003 09:35 Jav wrote: > It's a typical table game giving the casino about 3.5% house edge if you play it right. > Jav, I'm a little confused here. Are you saying that if you play the game "right", the house will only have a 3.5% edge? Does that mean that you can expect to win around 96% of the time? 4P- > If you want detailed info on how to play, and odds calculation, try www.wizardofodds.com. > This is a great site for general casino gaming information. > > http://www.wizardofodds.com/games/threecardpoker.html | ||
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| Re: So How Do You Play?, ezcheese, 31. Jul 2003 10:24 | ||
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| a 3.5% edge would mean that you can expect to win 46.5% of the time... the odds to start out would be 50/50. | ||
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| Re: So How Do You Play?, 4 POKER, 31. Jul 2003 10:41 | ||
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| on 31. Jul 2003 10:24 ezcheese wrote: > a 3.5% edge would mean that you can expect to win 46.5% of the time... the odds to start out would be > 50/50. Ok, that makes more sense but I still wouldn't play it! My win rate for poker is much higher than 46.5% of the time. What can I say, I'm not crazy about casino games.....I work too hard at the poker tables to be sitting in a pit game just to give it back....which is what would eventually happen:( | ||
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| Re: So How Do You Play?, ezcheese, 31. Jul 2003 11:23 | ||
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| What can I say, I'm not crazy about casino games.....I work too hard at the poker tables to be sitting in a > pit game just to give it back....which is what would eventually happen:( And this is why poker is a game of skill with a little bit of luck... and casino gambling games are pretty much all luck... Sure you can get the house advantage down to 3.5%... but the house still has an advantage, plain and simple. | ||
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| Re: So How Do You Play?, tpir90036, 31. Jul 2003 10:39 | ||
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| the correct way to interpret the percentage is that for every $1 you should win playing the game the casino only gives you around 96 cents back....it has nothing to do with "win rate". the game could have a win rate of 90% and still have a steep house advantage if they didn't pay you properly. | ||
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| Re: So How Do You Play?, Jav, 31. Jul 2003 12:57 | ||
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| Again from wizardofodds.... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The house edge is defined as the ratio of the average loss to the initial bet. The house edge is not the ratio of money lost to total money wagered. In some games the beginning wager is not necessarily the ending wager. For example in blackjack, let it ride, and Caribbean stud poker, the player may increase their bet when the odds favor doing so. In these cases the additional money wagered is not figured into the denominator for the purpose of determining the house edge, thus increasing the measure of risk. The reason that the house edge is relative to the original wager, not the average wager, is that it makes it easier for the player to estimate how much they will lose. For example if a player knows the house edge in blackjack is 0.6% he can assume that for every $10 wager original wager he makes he will lose 6 cents on the average. Most players are not going to know how much their average wager will be in games like blackjack relative to the original wager, thus any statistic based on the average wager would be difficult to apply to real life questions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not suggesting that any casino game is better than playing poker for someone who is skilled at poker. But for people who enjoy casino table games, they usually measure the casino advantage with the house edge percentage. | ||
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| Re: So How Do You Play?, EC, 31. Jul 2003 20:28 | ||
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| In a nutshell- the house will take 3.5% of whatever you choose to bet. If you bet $100, house keeps $3.50. Casinos make their money on volume. 3.5% is mid-range for a casino game- well-played blackjack can be under 1%, craps is around the same, whereas slots, roulette, let it ride, etc. are in the 5% range. Eli on 31. Jul 2003 12:57 Jav wrote: > Again from wizardofodds.... > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The house edge is defined as the ratio of the average loss to the initial bet. The house edge is not the > ratio of money lost to total money wagered. In some games the beginning wager is not necessarily the > ending wager. For example in blackjack, let it ride, and Caribbean stud poker, the player may increase > their bet when the odds favor doing so. In these cases the additional money wagered is not figured into > the denominator for the purpose of determining the house edge, thus increasing the measure of risk. > > The reason that the house edge is relative to the original wager, not the average wager, is that it > makes it easier for the player to estimate how much they will lose. For example if a player knows the > house edge in blackjack is 0.6% he can assume that for every $10 wager original wager he makes he will > lose 6 cents on the average. Most players are not going to know how much their average wager will be in > games like blackjack relative to the original wager, thus any statistic based on the average wager would > be difficult to apply to real life questions. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I'm not suggesting that any casino game is better than playing poker for someone who is skilled at > poker. But for people who enjoy casino table games, they usually measure the casino advantage with the > house edge percentage. | ||
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| Re: 3-card poker??, 4 POKER, 31. Jul 2003 09:30 | ||
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| Fact. There is a game in the casino's (actually, on the east coast ones,too) called "Three card poker", but don't let the word "Poker" confuse you into thinking that this is a "real form of poker", because it's not. It's another new game put in the "Pit" that favors The house, plain and simple. One might think that their odds are not too bad, but *any* game that is in the casino favors the house in a big way. My advice would be to stick to playing "real poker" in the poker cardrooms if you really want to have a shot at beating a game at all. | ||
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| Re: 3-card poker??, Reddog214, 31. Jul 2003 11:25 | ||
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| I've won more than my fair share playing 3-Card poker.....Very easy to play!!!! | ||
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| Re: 3-card poker??, 4 POKER, 31. Jul 2003 13:39 | ||
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| on 31. Jul 2003 11:25 Reddog214 wrote: > I've won more than my fair share playing 3-Card poker.....Very easy to play!!!! I know it's "easy" to play......so are the slot machines! But I'd bet you that if you continued to play that game on a regular basis you'd be waaaay behind. Sure, you can play it and beat it....but not in the long run you wouldn't! That's why the casinos make a ton of money. They put in games that people like to play....some of them win sometimes and some of them lose.....but *most* will lose......unfortunately. Trust me....the odds are not in your favor. | ||
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| Re: 3-card poker??, Andrew Wells, 31. Jul 2003 19:58 | ||
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| Actually, even with some top notch mathemagicians the house occasionally screws up. There was a game at Foxwoods called Wild Bill Hickock. Some MIT geniuses figured out a winning strategy for it, and it was subsequently removed. A Las Vegas casino paid too much for a couple of days at Sic Bo on a three dice combination of 17, and got cracked for $100,000. Any new game that comes along is worth thinking about, if you're capable of working out the math involved. | ||
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| Re: 3-card poker??, stdioh, 31. Jul 2003 13:21 | ||
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| 3-card poker is a house game. There is also something called 3 card brag which is played in Europe and was featured in the movie Lock Stock and two smoking Barrels. It is not a table stakes game, meaning true no limit - you can be bet your house in that game and have to make good. | ||
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| Re: 3-card poker??, Dezperado, 1. Aug 2003 06:54 | ||
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| on 31. Jul 2003 13:21 stdioh wrote: > 3-card poker is a house game. > > There is also something called 3 card brag which is played in Europe and was > featured in the movie Lock Stock and two smoking Barrels. It is not a table stakes > game, meaning true no limit - you can be bet your house in that game and have to make > good. http://www.pagat.com/vying/brag.html | ||
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