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NL signals, Dr_Monkey, 29. Jul 2003 11:40
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I have been mixing up my play with NL SnGs and NL ring games. With the exception of 3 hands that I called when I shouldn't have, I have been doing pretty well at the NL ring games.

I think I am going to try playing less SnG because I have had better luck at the NL ring game.

Is there a some guidelines that I can use when I play the NL ring games? I usually play $25 NL with 0.50/1 blinds.

I have notice alot of hands do not get passed the turn. There is usually someone that makes a pot sized bet after the flop. If there are callers, another large bet on the turn makes them fold.

Is there alot of bluffing going on? Or is it best to fold to large bets? when holding top pair? 2 pair? set? etc.




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Re: NL signals, ezcheese, 29. Jul 2003 11:50
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what is SnG?
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Re: NL signals, Scrubbie, 29. Jul 2003 13:31
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sNg = Sit and Go's.

Party Poker and Ultimate Bet have a tab for them. They are single table tourney's (no rebuy option)

sNg strategy varies much differently from Ring game strategy. Mostly because in a sNg you cannot rebuy. This makes "draws" very costly. In a ring game, you may be getting the correct odds to draw, where as, in a sNg, if you don't hit, you are done!

Scrubbie
I was watching TV the other day, and I heard them say your dream job is only a call away. So I called and was like, "Is this the chocolate factory ran by big titted hookers???"
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Re: NL signals, Scrubbie, 29. Jul 2003 13:49
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Doc,

This is a question that comes up often here. It is a good question. Only, due to the nature of the game you are writing about, the answer isn't so easy.

Here is what I have posted in the past ...

Due to the extemly LOW "blinds", the $25 "No Limit" game is very different then one you would find at a B&M with larger blinds. In effect, you get a lot of people playing waaaaaaaaaaay more hands then you would in a typical No Limit game.

As a result, you tend to see many more people 'hit" their flop. This makes it more difficult to perceive what they may have. Thus, you will need to adjust your game accordingly.

For example, you may be playing A-Q and the flop come down Q-9-7. If this were a typical No Limit game with LAGE blinds, a stong bet here would be correct. Yet, in the On-Line $25 games, a strong bet here can cost you money. (I see it a lot)

SO ... in answer to your question ..... I hate to take the cop out, and answer your question with ... "It Depends" , but with the game .... it really does. It is going to depend on whether the people that are raising are bully's, big stacks, small stacks, tight players, someone who will play 6-8 or someone who only plays A-J, etc. (I hope you see what I am getting at here)

You will need to play (and study) the game, to find a strategy that works well for you.

I think shorn and stdioh have also commented on this one with me? Guys?????? Other thoughts here????

Scrubbie
I was watching TV the other day, and I heard them say your dream job is only a call away. So I called and was like, "Is this the chocolate factory ran by big titted hookers???"
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Re: NL signals, stdioh, 29. Jul 2003 16:08
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It depends it depends it depends.

You can't play like a ring game where you say, "I have 2 pair, I'm going all the way with it," nor can you hang onto one pair under heavy action, but there are times when you can massively overbet with one pair.

Basically, bluffing is much more common in NL because it is easier to fold an opponent by making a big bet. You can make a bet in a big pot that takes away his odds to draw to a flush and fold off 5 players who were in a hand that was raised preflop. This sort of thing generally means that made hands are kind, but drawing hands have implied odds. Everything is implied odds in NL.

The other thing about no limit poker is that it is much more art than science. In general when there's a pot bet on the flop and you're holding 2 pair you are good. In general if you hit a coordinated flop and you have top pair you want to bet the pot to fold the draws.

But I could write a book on NL tournament play...the best thing you can do is read one.
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Re: NL signals, TexRoadkill, 30. Jul 2003 10:29
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Based on my NL SNG play a big post flop bet usually means top pair or over pair against a junk flop. Few people are foolish enough to go all in on a draw or overcard unless they are crazy or in LP and sense weakness. Few people are foolish enough to go all in against an obvious flush, 3Kind or straight draw unless they have it or have a draw against several monsters.

If you flop a top pair with a great kicker or better you might be safe to call. But as always it just depends on the style of your opponent.
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