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 Should we divide this forum?, Mike Caro, 29. Jul 2003 06:45 | ||
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| Please vote: Recently, we have seen a great increase in the number of posts at UPF. So far, we've kept the forum divided into only two groups: "Poker" and "Not Quite Poker." Do you like the forum the way it is, or would you like to see new categories/groups, serving as individual sub-forums? Question: SHOULD WE DIVIDE THE FORUM NOW? (Please vote "Yes" or "No." (And, of course, include comments, if you'd like.) Straight Flushes, Mike Caro | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Blake, 29. Jul 2003 07:01 | ||
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| YES... I think we need more categories.maybe a section for limit poker,one for no-limit and maybe one for tournament strategy would be nice. Thanks | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Wren, 29. Jul 2003 07:22 | ||
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| Hi Mike, I think we should break it down. Categories such as the following might be useful: - general poker strategy - analyses/questions about particular hands - internet poker-related - poker media (comments/reviews on WPT, poker books, CP articles, etc.) - advertising (poker lessons, games, websites, etc.) - poker-miscellaneous (topics here might include anything from setting up a home tournament to the ethics of a particular situation) - not-quite-poker Wren | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, spk, 29. Jul 2003 09:43 | ||
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| I share the same thoughts as posted by Wren.. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, BackStage, 29. Jul 2003 10:46 | ||
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| Some great ideas Wren--possibbly add a general comments section for things that don't quite fit into other categories e.g., poker psychology, etc. I VOTE YES---Even though I enjoy everyone's comments, I just don't have the time to read every post. I would like to be able to narrow the field a little and go to the areas I need information about. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Paintballgirl, 29. Jul 2003 07:24 | ||
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| * Hold 'Em, with subcats, Limit, Pot Limit, No Limit * Omaha * 7 card stud * Other variations * General poker questions * Totally Off Topic *Tournament Talk | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, stdioh, 29. Jul 2003 10:46 | ||
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| I think that dividing it by game might be going a bit far. There are clear classes of posts that we should divide by, as Wren said. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, donrhem, 29. Jul 2003 07:28 | ||
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| Mike, I think we should divide the forum. We had a thread on this about 2-3 weeks ago with some very good suggestions. Don | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Risky Business, 29. Jul 2003 07:34 | ||
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| Mr. Caro: Great question, and I expect you'll get volumes of ideas to dig through. You and the braintrust must decide: 1. Swooping change or baby steps? 2. Do you intend to continue INITIATING chat? Recently, it's been flooded because you guys are prompting us for responses and brain teasers. If this continues, you have to break up the 200 unread posts per day I'm getting. Moving right along.... 1. Not Quite Poker (for those that don't want to interrupt) 2. Tournament News and Results (WSOP updates, Jan's results, UPF tourney updates and schedules) 3. Affiliates, Sponsors, and Promotional Posts (we can at least try to keep them in one area, though it may be futile) 4. UPF Biographies 5. UPF Wall of Fame - UPF tourney results, with summaries from a few players reaching the final table to get a good feel for each tourney. 6. Main Chat Room a. General Information - That does not pertain to a specific game b. Hold 'Em i. Hands/Scenarios/Strategy ii. General Information c. Other (Omaha, Stud, Draw, etc.) i. Hands/Scenarios/Strategy ii. General Information I think keeping everything out of the main chat room will open things up enough. I think getting too detailed in your division of the main chat room will dilute attention because people will have to jump into each category to find an unread topic. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Risky Business, 29. Jul 2003 07:40 | ||
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| Let me tack on that we should have a "How to" column: 1. How to deal with All-Ins and Sidepots 2. How to host your first home tournament 3. How to find the best sign-up bonuses for on-line play 4. How to locate your closest B&M casino 5. How to build your own poker table. Sorry, I just saw "How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days", so the "How To" is still on the brain. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, McMonkey, 29. Jul 2003 08:10 | ||
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| Sorry for the length, I'm thinking out loud here. I too agree that it should be divided. I like the ideas Wren posted about sub categories. Another nice feature that would be cool (if possible) is some sort of (small and simple) chat room. That way if you're at the poker table (online) or just got home from one and have a quick question, or a funny situation, or need to vent about a bad beat, you can do it there and that would also save the forum from some traffic as well. Along the same lines (maybe instead of chat) could be a private message system. Like if I have a situation or question for 1 UPF'er that everyone else doesn't need to hear I could send it directly to them. Though i suppose a page with people's email address (those who wish to share them, that is) would serve the same purpose and be a lot easier to implement. Anyway, that's my $0.02 (that I won on the UB micro-limits with a monster King high hand) | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Snorbolus, 29. Jul 2003 08:13 | ||
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| If you are going to devide it please not to many sub-groups. The reason that I never read the 2+2 forum is that it is so inconvienient to navagate through. Snorbolus on 29. Jul 2003 06:45 Mike Caro wrote: > Please vote: > > Recently, we have seen a great increase in the number of posts at UPF. > > So far, we've kept the forum divided into only two groups: "Poker" and "Not > Quite Poker." > > Do you like the forum the way it is, or would you like to see new > categories/groups, serving as individual sub-forums? > > Question: SHOULD WE DIVIDE THE FORUM NOW? (Please vote "Yes" or "No." (And, of > course, include comments, if you'd like.) > > Straight Flushes, > Mike Caro | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, beigs, 29. Jul 2003 08:21 | ||
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| I agree with this. People already have a hard time distinguishing between "Poker" and "Not Quite Poker" as it is. I can't imagine it would be much better with lots of categories. on 29. Jul 2003 08:13 Snorbolus wrote: > If you are going to devide it please not to many sub-groups. The reason that I never > read the 2+2 forum is that it is so inconvienient to navagate through. > > Snorbolus > > on 29. Jul 2003 06:45 Mike Caro wrote: > > Please vote: > > > > Recently, we have seen a great increase in the number of posts at UPF. > > > > So far, we've kept the forum divided into only two groups: "Poker" and "Not > > Quite Poker." > > > > Do you like the forum the way it is, or would you like to see new > > categories/groups, serving as individual sub-forums? > > > > Question: SHOULD WE DIVIDE THE FORUM NOW? (Please vote "Yes" or "No." (And, of > > course, include comments, if you'd like.) > > > > Straight Flushes, > > Mike Caro | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, stdioh, 29. Jul 2003 10:47 | ||
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| Agreed. I think that 5 groups is the perfect number. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, gary ford, 29. Jul 2003 08:32 | ||
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| The increase in the # of posts has made the forum more interesting but also more time-consuming. Too many sub groups would be self defeating but categories would be helpful. The business of poker tournament strategies Online strategies. e-mail adresses for chat that now takes place in the main room. Expert comments( the addition of Barry T and Mark G. was exciting) | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, MozMan, 29. Jul 2003 08:43 | ||
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| I vote yes. I will leave the categories up to you. There a LOTS of really good suggestions in the posts above, and I can't add anything of any mroe value at this point. However you do it, you make everyone happy, but with a little thought, it will come off well, and most will be happy with it. -Moz "I smoke 'cause I'm hoping for an early death, and I need to cling to something." | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, LJH, 29. Jul 2003 09:03 | ||
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| MIKE, I VOTE NO!. ONCE YOU START SUBDIVIDING, IT WILL BE LIKE A MAZE TO FIND OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE. THE WAY IT IS NOW YOU CAN ALWAYS GET GENERAL KNOWLEDGE AND ALSO GET SOME ENTERTAINMENT. OF COURSE, IT COULD BE DIVIDED INTO WINNERS AND LOSERS, AND MAYBE WHINERS.LJH | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, mkpoker, 29. Jul 2003 09:22 | ||
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| Mike, I believe strongly it would be a big mistake to subdivide. At most, I'd favor adding one group, breaking it into "Playing Poker" (most of what's here now), "About Poker" (TV schedules, tournament announcements), and "Not Quite Poker." I think the key to avoiding "overload" is to encourage posters to 1) put "not quite poker" posts in the appropriate place and 2) NOT to add duplicative or substance-free posts like "I think Mike is right" or "LOL" that don't contribute to a discussion thread. As has been noted, too much division will create a navigation maze. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, wolvish, 29. Jul 2003 09:32 | ||
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| I vote Yes. wolvish | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Big_Slick, 29. Jul 2003 09:34 | ||
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| I think it would only work if people used the sub categories correctly and there weren't more than 4 or 5 groups total. Any more than that will be confusing and a hassle for a lot of people. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, chasepoker, 29. Jul 2003 09:58 | ||
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| What about keeping the current format but also after you post a thread you get the OPTION of also putting it into one of the sub catagories mentioned above ( it would appear as it does now in a ' all posts ' section). Those people that like the current format can keep it as it is now and those who want to find something specific can look in the sub section applicable. I would not to see a forum like 2+2 where everything is divided and the only was to get to it is by opening the right " folder " or whatever the subsections are called. One thing i think would be quite a good idea is to have a section called " nothing at all do with poker in any way shape or form " ( maybe find a better name though ! ). Chasepoker | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Jav, 29. Jul 2003 09:56 | ||
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| I think any division of this poker forum should be relatively small. If you break it into many subcategories, then you might also break up the community. You might have 2 people that read the Omaha 8 forum, 5 that read the Limit Holdem, 15 that read the NL Holdem, etc. My point is you might end up dividing the community as well as the posts. Instead of subdividing the forum, maybe the search tools for the forum can be improved to search for different categories of posts easy. I would just hate to see 10 more categories, if 8 of them will only get 1 post a day, and the other two won't equal the post total we're getting now... | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Big_Slick, 29. Jul 2003 10:06 | ||
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| I agree 100% | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, ezcheese, 29. Jul 2003 10:25 | ||
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| I agree that you should not break the forums up too much... perhaps breaking into sections for the different types of poker.... and because Texas Hold 'em seems to be the most popular here, I'd say that you also break Texas Hold 'Em into Low Limit, High Limit, and No Limit... These different divisions will cover all the playing of poker, and then you could have one more division to post about biographies, welcome new members, and have tourney results... Breaking up the forum too much such as How-to's and Specific hand types will end up breaking up the community and make it harder to stay up to date on. so it would be: 1)Texas Hold 'EM a)Low Limit b)High Limit c)No Limit 2)Omaha 3)Stud 4)Etc...etc... ?)Misc. Poker ?)Not Quite Poker | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Giocatore, 29. Jul 2003 10:18 | ||
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| I think it would be a good idea to create sub-categories and found Wren's suggestions to be adequate. So my vote is YES. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Nathaniel Brous, 29. Jul 2003 10:48 | ||
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| Hey Mike. Is there any way that we can have the option of looking at them both ways? - Nathaniel Brous | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, stdioh, 29. Jul 2003 10:52 | ||
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| yes My preference for categories follows: 1) General Strategy (ie table selection strategy, how to play sidepots, etc) 2) Strategy for particular hands (ie all of the "did I play this right" posts) 3) UB community (planning for tourneys, home games, the low down on casinos, etc - basically what not quite poker has become) 4) Media (talk about poker on TV, books, etc - good suggestion from Wren) 5) Misc. (non-community not quite poker, spammish posts, any any off-topica that doesn't belong elsewhere). | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, ezcheese, 29. Jul 2003 11:52 | ||
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| oooooooooooooooohhhhh.... i really like your suggestion. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, MozMan, 29. Jul 2003 13:00 | ||
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| Hey- This is probably the best overall suggestion I've seen so far... -Moz "I smoke 'cause I'm hoping for an early death, and I need to cling to something." | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Scrubbie, 29. Jul 2003 13:24 | ||
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| I second, no, i mean, third stdioh's idea. Although I have been soooo swamped that I haven't been able to contribute lately, I have been reading as many posts as I have time for. It would be nice to have the threads in categories. Although, any more than 5 is over doing it. (as most people agree) ... OK, Back to work. The Warden gets mad when I spend all my time in the Lab!! (He thinks I'm looking at porn. *he,he,he*) Scrubbie I was watching TV the other day, and I heard them say your dream job is only a call away. So I called and was like, "Is this the chocolate factory ran by big titted hookers???" | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Wren, 29. Jul 2003 13:46 | ||
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| This sounds good. Though I'm wondering where all the online-poker related questions will go with this set-up - perhaps UPF community? (I'm assuming you meant UPF community and not UB community) on 29. Jul 2003 10:52 stdioh wrote: > yes > > My preference for categories follows: > > 1) General Strategy (ie table selection strategy, how to play sidepots, etc) > > 2) Strategy for particular hands (ie all of the "did I play this right" posts) > > 3) UB community (planning for tourneys, home games, the low down on casinos, etc - > basically what not quite poker has become) > > 4) Media (talk about poker on TV, books, etc - good suggestion from Wren) > > 5) Misc. (non-community not quite poker, spammish posts, any any off-topica that > doesn't belong elsewhere). | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Scrubbie, 29. Jul 2003 13:51 | ||
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| WOW ... good catch Wren. I totally missed that. Yea, stdioh .... Huh, what did you mean buster??? (*ha,ha,ha*) Scrubbie I was watching TV the other day, and I heard them say your dream job is only a call away. So I called and was like, "Is this the chocolate factory ran by big titted hookers???" | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, ezcheese, 29. Jul 2003 14:46 | ||
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| online poker will still be kept with general strategy or particular hands strategy... if the questions are concerning which website is best or something about the software then I think you could keep it in the community. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Guru, 29. Jul 2003 11:57 | ||
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| I'm on the fence here. If you break it down, please limit the number of categories. I kinda like stdioh's categories. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Brent, 29. Jul 2003 13:02 | ||
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| Yes, I think it would be helpful to divide it between tournament and structured play. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Don Quixote, 29. Jul 2003 17:46 | ||
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| Basically, my thoughts too. Divide "Poker" into Ring Games, Tournaments and maybe a separate category for Omaha. I am afraid if we do too much dividing that we will also divide the camaraderie of the current posters and readers. I dont go to 2+2 much anymore since UPF started up. I dont want to have to read the various limit forums. It would be nice to have all limits of holdem ring games in its own forum and the same for tournaments and Omaha. Don Quixote on 29. Jul 2003 13:02 Brent wrote: > Yes, I think it would be helpful to divide it between tournament and structured play. > | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, ezcheese, 30. Jul 2003 14:44 | ||
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| I don't go to 2+2 cuz of the format, layout, and the loading of the site is absolutely terrible. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Andrew Wells, 29. Jul 2003 14:20 | ||
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| No, it's still just fine the way it is. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, palman, 29. Jul 2003 14:26 | ||
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| I would say the best solution would be to have it so that at the push of a button, you could divide it by category (would enable people to see information about a certain topic easier, and information posted months earlier more quickly) or keep it how it is now. I personally like the way it is setup, although I visit often enough not to get lost. I actually chose to follow this forum more than two plus two's simply because I didnt really like how they were divided. Would it be conceivable to have it both ways? | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Tim C, 29. Jul 2003 14:39 | ||
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| I like it the way it is, maybe Tournament play and ring game play sections. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, tommyhawk, 29. Jul 2003 16:13 | ||
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| I like it the way it is. This way I read almost everything and that comes in handy later. It is getting bigger fast though and I can imagine that some guys don't like it that much. For me the best option would be that everything comes in like now but gets divided also but I don't know if this is possible. Good luck and thanks for letting us speak. tommyhawk. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, chasepoker, 29. Jul 2003 16:32 | ||
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| I like the combination of way it is now but with each post ' filed ' under a heading as well so you can hunt down specifics. Chasepoker | ||
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| Update Before Dividing, greg, 29. Jul 2003 16:24 | ||
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| before dividing up the forum, may i suggest you look into updating your message board software first? i've been reading MBs for a few years now and by far the best software is vBulletin. you can check it out here at http://www.vbulletin.com it does cost some money to purchase but i'm sure some UPF members wouldn't mind helping with the cost. trust me, this type of forum would be so much easier to navigate and work with. it's incredibly customizable and user friendly. take a look at the vBulletin boards http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/index.php to see how they look in action. tell me what you guys think. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Banning, 29. Jul 2003 20:35 | ||
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| Yes, -internet -B&M -tournament -limit -nl are just some of my suggestions. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Bond18, 30. Jul 2003 00:19 | ||
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| Nah, i like being able to look over a number of different posts on all kinds of things. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Wren, 30. Jul 2003 07:17 | ||
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| I think the problem with a division like this is that some of the categories are overlapping (for example, B&M tournaments, internet tournaments, limit tournaments, no limit tournaments) and there will be ambiguity in determining where to put certain posts. on 29. Jul 2003 20:35 Banning wrote: > Yes, > -internet > -B&M > -tournament > -limit > -nl > are just some of my suggestions. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Husker66, 30. Jul 2003 07:29 | ||
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| yes....subdivide into various catagories low limit mid limit online B&M no limit hole 'em etc etc etc | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Asher, 30. Jul 2003 10:46 | ||
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| Too bad RGP cant be divided into "Real Poker Content" and "Other Crap" GL Mike | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, Wren, 30. Jul 2003 13:27 | ||
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| It is already. 'cept the Real Poker Content forum is always empty. | ||
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| Re: Should we divide this forum?, BigDukeSix, 30. Jul 2003 13:40 | ||
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| Yes | ||
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| HOW ABOUT THIS: THE SOLUTION, ezcheese, 30. Jul 2003 14:50 | ||
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| Ok so you know that when you come to look at posts, the first post has the little + or - sign where you can see the replies or choose not to... If you had the poker section available to where you were viewing all posts... then you click on the little + sign and it shows the subcategories of limit, no limit, tournament, online, etc.... this would be best because everyone, when posting, would choose their specific category to post under and can find their posts easier, and it will also allow everyone to see all the posts... | ||
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