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 Blast! I lost., jumpthru, 24. Jul 2003 10:42 | ||
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| So...this is depressing...I am in a .50/1 no limit $40 buy in, home game, very serious, with some very good players and some weak players. I am one of the strongest I would think, but I do know I have some leaks. It is depressing cause I know when I make a mistake or misplay a hand...I know when I should of bet less with the nuts and took the extra money then gotten greedy and excited like a child with the best hand and say "all in"...I know when I find myself calling out of spite when I should of gotten out long before, I just seem to know when I am playing incorrectly. Yet I still cant get myself to always play perfectly even though I can see the flaws so clearly. I am the chip leader with about $65, a rock on my right, goes all in $27, I look down and see Ad Kd . I put him on jacks or queens. I call. He has queens. No help. I lose. Later, I find Q 8 in BB and the flop comes 4 Q 8. Turn 2 or something. I bet ten he calls.. River 7. Same rock goes all in on the river for $61. I am at $80. I dont put him on a straight with a $10 dollar inside straight draw. I call with my two pair, and he shows a set of 4's. Later in BB I have 3 5 and flop comes 4 6 7 with I think two of a suit. I decide to slow play my monster hoping he doesn't catch a straight of flush. I call a couple bucks on the flop I think. Turn is a Q off suit. Check, check. River is a 7. I immediatly go all in with my straight, and he quickly calls. I didn't really even pay attention to the last card, with the board pairing since I was so set on going all in at some point with that hand. He flips pocket 7's and I dont even realise I lost the hand until he starts scoopping the chips. Plus he has me covered so I am now busted. This was such a good game, and I ended up busting out another $40, but anyway, everysingle time except for the last one, I lost the all in, and worked back up to about $100...I am clearly of the upper caliber and can consistently beat 5 of the 9 players that were there last night...but I find myself busting out or winning huge. I never know what to do with these gut wrenching huge hands far from nuts, all ins! I am sick of being pushed around when these excellent players could easily be pulling a fast one and bluffing, seeing weakness in me, that I probably was acting and inducing anyways... Maybe I just needed to get this out of my system, but were all of those bad calls? I thought I was getting the best of it...did the cards just not fall in my direction or was I just feeding the sharks? Nate PS, if there is a moral to this, it is that once again, tight is right, dont get involved with crappy cards, cause even if you get your miracle flop, they probably will still be cracked. | ||
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| Re: Blast! I lost., Jav, 24. Jul 2003 11:22 | ||
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| I think the moral of the story is not to call an all-in bet without the nuts when you know the person who went all-in is a rock! Actually I think you played some of those hands wrong, and I think you already know that. Hand 1: "I am the chip leader with about $65, a rock on my right, goes all in $27, I look down and see Ad Kd . I put him on jacks or queens. I call." Why would you call with AdKd if you put him on jacks or queens? He is the favorite in this instance, and if you believe that you need to fold. AK is a drawing hand, even if it's suited. You might make an all-in bet with it (but I don't think that would be reasonable with your low blinds compared to the money wagered in later rounds). Hand 2: "Later, I find Q 8 in BB and the flop comes 4 Q 8. Turn 2 or something. I bet ten he calls.. River 7. Same rock goes all in on the river for $61. I am at $80. I dont put him on a straight with a $10 dollar inside straight draw. I call with my two pair, and he shows a set of 4's." Nothing you could do here except not call that $61 bet on the river. You have a strong hand on the flop. You are the one calling this guy a rock. If he really is a rock, you have to know that he's not going to go all-in against you when you have been showing strength the whole hand unless he thinks he can beat you. It's a tough lay down, but it's easier when you know the player is a rock. Hand 3: "Later in BB I have 3 5 and flop comes 4 6 7 with I think two of a suit. I decide to slow play my monster hoping he doesn't catch a straight of flush. I call a couple bucks on the flop I think. Turn is a Q off suit. Check, check. River is a 7. I immediatly go all in with my straight, and he quickly calls. I didn't really even pay attention to the last card, with the board pairing since I was so set on going all in at some point with that hand. He flips pocket 7's and I dont even realise I lost the hand until he starts scoopping the chips. Plus he has me covered so I am now busted." I believe you played this hand wrong, but you probably would have lost big anyway. When you flop that straight you are probably the favorite. But as you pointed out, your straight is vulnerable to any flush card, any 5, or any 8. (And to a lesser extent to the board pairing, making someone a full house or quads). That's a lot of cards that could hurt you. You ABSOLUTELY cannot slow play this hand. You want to put in a pot sized bet right away to get anyone with a draw to either fold or make a mathematical mistake and call you. The person with a set of 7's would probably come back at you hard at that point. Then you have a difficult decision to make. But you stated yourself that "I didn't really even pay attention to the last card, with the board pairing since I was so set on going all in at some point with that hand". You can't play winning poker like that. You always have to be conscious of what each card on the board could mean. You also don't want to mentally commit yourself to such a vulnerable straight so early in the hand. But it sounds like you're playing pretty good poker, but you just weren't able to get away from losing some big pots. You can expect to lose money to sets because they are so hard to read when your opponent has them. You just want to be very careful not to call other peoples all-in bets, especially ones from rocks. You want to be the one putting the pressure on them. Good luck, I hope you take them next time! | ||
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