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 WSOP Question, Dr_Monkey, 24. Jul 2003 07:21 | ||
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| I recently caught the ESPN showing of the 2003 WSOP. It was the day 2 coverage. They showed the first day leaders with 98,000+ and 75,000+ in chips. They mentioned that they didn't do well the second day as they lost most of their chips. I wondered what would be the results for these 2 people if they played super tight, could they make it to the money? First 50 pay correct? If I were them I would be super happy just to make the money. Anyone know what the typical chip levels are when it gets down to 50 people? 400 people with 10,000 in chips is 4,000,000 total. Divided by 50 people that would be 80,000 in chips. Seems that someone with 75,000 - 98,000 could get there by playing super tight? Can anyone explain the blind structure of the tournament? Everyone starts with 10,000 in chips? When do blinds go up and at what rate? | ||
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| Re: WSOP Question, Risky Business, 24. Jul 2003 07:48 | ||
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| That is a good question. I will call Binion's for the blind structure, et al, today and get back with you if nobody else can help. I'm sure it's pretty aggressive though. If you've shelled out 10k for your seat, getting 50th isn't really what you're shooting for. Now if you're a Chris Moneymake type, and you've won your seat on-line for $40, then maybe you're content to sit back and wait for the 50th place money to roll around..........or the 2.5 mill, whichever presents itself. on 24. Jul 2003 07:21 Dr_Monkey wrote: > I recently caught the ESPN showing of the 2003 WSOP. It was the day 2 coverage. > They showed the first day leaders with 98,000+ and 75,000+ in chips. They > mentioned that they didn't do well the second day as they lost most of their > chips. I wondered what would be the results for these 2 people if they played > super tight, could they make it to the money? First 50 pay correct? If I were > them I would be super happy just to make the money. Anyone know what the > typical chip levels are when it gets down to 50 people? 400 people with 10,000 > in chips is 4,000,000 total. Divided by 50 people that would be 80,000 in > chips. Seems that someone with 75,000 - 98,000 could get there by playing super > tight? > > Can anyone explain the blind structure of the tournament? Everyone starts with > 10,000 in chips? When do blinds go up and at what rate? > | ||
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| Re: WSOP Question, Dr_Monkey, 24. Jul 2003 08:16 | ||
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| I agree that 50th isn't what you are shooting for, but 50th beats losing on the 2nd day. 50th money is 15k to 20k? Still not a bad pay day even after subtracting your buy in. How bad would you feel to be the first day chip leader only to lose it all on the second day? I got the impression that the first day money leaders were not pro. Maybe they got lucky to get all those chips. Maybe they took risks that they shouldn't have and they paid off. Maybe the are solid players that got sloppy because they were money leaders. Either way, I think they had a chance at the money. This is a 4-5 day tournament? So the last day only 50 people are left. So they would have to last 2 or 3 more days. In theory, you could play super tight and win a handful of pots to make up what the blinds are taking from you. > > If you've shelled out 10k for your seat, getting 50th isn't really what you're > shooting for. > Now if you're a Chris Moneymake type, and you've won your seat on-line for $40, then > maybe you're content to sit back and wait for the 50th place money to roll > around..........or the 2.5 mill, whichever presents itself. > | ||
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| Re: WSOP Question, Reddog214, 24. Jul 2003 08:35 | ||
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| Actually, this year the top 63 places paid....63rd paid 15k, if I remember correct. | ||
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| Re: WSOP Question, MozMan, 24. Jul 2003 09:57 | ||
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| This is why I will probably never play the WSOP. I would be happy with a $5k return on my investement and end up playing just to make the money. That's no way to play any tourney. -Moz "May your chips never fall from a cow." | ||
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| Re: WSOP Question, gary ford, 24. Jul 2003 11:14 | ||
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| on 24. Jul 2003 09:57 MozMan wrote: > This is why I will probably never play the WSOP. I would be happy with a $5k return on my > investement and end up playing just to make the money. That's no way to play any tourney. > > -Moz I disagree. You can't win if you don't make the money. Survival is the first priority. Keeping your bankroll intact is next. This is a business not a game > > "May your chips never fall from a cow." | ||
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| Re: WSOP Question, MozMan, 24. Jul 2003 11:43 | ||
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| on 24. Jul 2003 11:14 gary ford wrote: > on 24. Jul 2003 09:57 MozMan wrote: > > This is why I will probably never play the WSOP. I would be happy with a $5k return on my > > investement and end up playing just to make the money. That's no way to play any tourney. > > > > -Moz > > I disagree. You can't win if you don't make the money. Survival is the first priority. Keeping your > bankroll intact is next. This is a business not a game I actually agree with you here. I think I was probably not clear enough in what I was trying to say about myself. Once I made the money, I would probably get all kinds of loose and flippant; figuring I was outmatched anyway, and I would probably throw away my chips basically resigned to placing last in the money. If it's not the WSOP, then maybe I hit the money and think, "I'm in the money, now I can win this thing" and play more solid. But because it's the "big one" I'm probably too initimidated to play well. > > > > "May your chips never fall from a cow." -Moz "May your chips never fall from a cow." | ||
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| Re: WSOP Question, Risky Business, 24. Jul 2003 12:03 | ||
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| The great thing about the WSOP is that with all those other tables, you might never have to knock out a modern-day-legend until Day 3. Personally, that would suck if you've only played with Joe Shmo to that point. | ||
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| Re: WSOP Question, gary ford, 24. Jul 2003 12:32 | ||
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| moz----if you make the money you could turn on that NY charm and run dose guys right off the table. Tourneys, in general could mean anything from the WSOP to a $5 SNG. With the amount of action being generated by this poker boom. the WSOP is no longer the only game in town but its still the HOLY GRAIL Gary | ||
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| Re: WSOP Question, mroban, 24. Jul 2003 12:32 | ||
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| I think being at a table with Hellmuth, et al. would make you play tighter and you might end up having better results. Personally, at the WSOP I would not tangle with the legends. I really admire Moneymaker for how he played against Johnny Chan. He refused to be intimidated (okay, he was reasonably sure he had the nuts, but he had to at least think Johnny was holding AK or AQ). Anyway, playing against Joe Blow from Idaho (essentially, me) you probably would not give as much respect and might play a little too loose. At least thats how I would look at it. Just hope I don't have the nuts, re-raise Phil, take him down and then incur his wrath for the rest of the day. Oh hell, who am I kidding, that would be priceless. | ||
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| Re: WSOP Question, NiceFella, 24. Jul 2003 12:32 | ||
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| on 24. Jul 2003 11:43 MozMan wrote: > If it's not the WSOP, then maybe I hit the money and think, "I'm in the money, now I can win this thing" and > play more solid. But because it's the "big one" I'm probably too initimidated to play well. Hmm... that's the opposite of what happens to me. When the competition isn't demanding, I make mistakes. When the competition is extremely intimidating and I feel I have no hope of winning, I buckle down and play my best poker. | ||
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