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 How do you play KK?, Slate, 23. Jul 2003 14:18 | ||
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| Pocket Kings? I am going to change my pocket king strategy. In NL and late with big blinds it a no brainier - Bet it and steal the blinds since the blinds are worth it. But in NL and Limit early on I have had kings die left and right and my big bets called and wasted. If there are small bets its not worth raising it high or all-in because of the small pot. So a 2-3 time pot bet is good to build the pots. But despite the poker calculator against a AQ seems the kings loose out to a A on the flop. My question is not how you play KK but how you HAVE played them and what has been the best outcome for you overall? | ||
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| Re: How do you play KK?, MozMan, 23. Jul 2003 14:30 | ||
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| Well, when it comes to NL tourney strategy, I always raise the same way whenever I decide to raise (early and when I'm not despirate). My raises are always 3-4 times the size of the big blind (or roughly pot-sized, in most cases). I try to keep my raises the same so no one can tell the difference between AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK, AQ, etc... With AA or KK though, if there is a minimum reraise after me, I will sometimes (not always) respond with an all-in. Minimum re-raise almost always means a smaller pocket pair, AK or AQ. With some fish, it will often mean Ax. At this point an all-in push almost always scares them off, and I've got a decent sized pot without seeing a flop. If they raise BIG, especially all-in... that's a tougher call, and my response really depends on my opponent. I really don't want to see a flop, though, if I can avoid it because Aces scare the hell out of me. -Moz "May your chips never fall from a cow." | ||
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| Re: How do you play KK?, foraces, 23. Jul 2003 19:18 | ||
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| With some fish, it will often mean Ax. At this point an all-in push > almost always scares them off, and I've got a decent sized pot without seeing a > flop. | ||
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| Re: How do you play KK?, foraces, 23. Jul 2003 19:19 | ||
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| on 23. Jul 2003 19:18 foraces wrote: > With some fish, it will often mean Ax. At this point an all-in push > > almost always scares them off, and I've got a decent sized pot without seeing a > > flop. sorry aboutthat last post... I was just wondering what site you play at that fish get scared and fold to an all in bet. I would enjoy NOT being sucked out on by 67o with AA somewhere | ||
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| Re: How do you play KK?, MozMan, 23. Jul 2003 19:48 | ||
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| LOL! I mostly play UB, and yes, it's true, I do often get called with an A5o, or something like that, and that can be pretty scary. Bottom line is, I've isolated that player and have tremendous odds to win the hand. In any case, in these situations, everyone folds off 75% of the time... even the fish. -Moz "May your chips never fall from a cow." | ||
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| Re: How do you play KK?, stdioh, 25. Jul 2003 15:06 | ||
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| You should always raise with your KK because it is much better than any single hand with the exclusion of AA so you have value with it against a field of random hands. As well, you have vulnerability against anybody holding an ace. If nobody has an A, your KK is as good as AA. So you raise it to fold players who are holding AX. I think at most times during a NL cash game or NL tourney a correct raise is about 3 BB total. The exception is when there are a lot of limpers in front of you. If 5 people limp, you are better off making a big raise with KK because you'd ideally like to rob the other 4 players and get the last player heads up. If you steal 5 limps that is a very good profit for KK and certainly more than you can expect to make going up with KK five handed. Lets say the average stack is T1000 and blinds are 50-100 and there are 5 limpers to my KK. I will always push all in with it. The reason is that the pot already has T500 in it and if I raise to T300 and get some callers the pot will have around double my stack. Now I can't push people off of draws and my KK is vulnerable. I'll shove all in there and be happy not to be called and be happy to be called. And if I run into somebody slowplaying AA I'll be mortified, but them's the breaks. | ||
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