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 Scotty Nguyen, greg, 21. Jul 2003 16:31 | ||
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| anyone ever notice that Scotty is almost always drinking a beer at the table? i thought it was a cardinal rule to not drink alcohol while playing poker. what do you guys think about this? | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, noiseboy, 21. Jul 2003 16:39 | ||
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| I think Layne Flack does it too. I think it's what psychologists call "state-dependent learning". For instance, I've been playing guitar since I was eighteen under the influence of around two beers. What's weird is that I now play better a little tipsy than I do sober. If I drink more than five, my abilities start to decline as guitar does involve some motor skills and hand-eye coordination. I have a feeling that some poker players who are ALWAYS drinking a beer while playing, probably have a tolerance built up and it doesn't really affect them like a normal person anymore. I mean they would probably start to make bad decisions if they reach a state (however many beers that is for them) where they are actually drunk. Anyway, don't get the idea that I'm suggesting people should drink while they play, for most people this is just disasterous. | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, Roy Cooke, 21. Jul 2003 16:48 | ||
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| I have NEVER seen a player that drank continuously while playing EVER survive the test of time in poker. Roy Cooke on 21. Jul 2003 16:31 greg wrote: > anyone ever notice that Scotty is almost always drinking a beer at the table? i > thought it was a cardinal rule to not drink alcohol while playing poker. what do > you guys think about this? | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, 4 POKER, 21. Jul 2003 17:15 | ||
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| Agreed........NEVER, NEVER, NEVER play poker while intoxicated if you expect to be a winning and surviving player. The two don't mix ...period! 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, gary ford, 21. Jul 2003 19:10 | ||
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| do you drive a car while intoxicated? no? then why would you play poker in that state? One will kill you, the other will kill your bankroll. Gary | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, greg, 21. Jul 2003 21:23 | ||
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| i wasn't advocating or defending drinking while playing, just asking if there was a story as to why scotty seems to be the only pro drinking while playing. | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, Peter Dimas, 21. Jul 2003 19:57 | ||
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| Are we talking about nursing the same beer for 3-4 hours or pounding them down? | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, greg, 21. Jul 2003 21:24 | ||
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| i'm guesing he just nurses them while playing. also, after scotty was eliminated from one of the WPT shows, one of the announcers said, "...and he he's headed straight to the bar." i was just wondering if scotty had a reputation for drinking and playing. | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, DJpoker, 21. Jul 2003 23:57 | ||
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| I think you are talking about the Aruba show where Scotty finished 3rd or 4th. If I were overlooking the beach and just won 30K or whatever he won, I would hit the bar for a frosty beverage too. LOL | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, AcesUp5, 22. Jul 2003 02:34 | ||
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| Id hit the strip bar, 30k in singles please!!! | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, Jav, 22. Jul 2003 09:50 | ||
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| Lol, I'm going to the WSOP with you! | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, stdioh, 22. Jul 2003 10:07 | ||
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| You poor americans without $2 coins. Tipping a stripper is so much more fun when you can lie on stage with a toonie in your teeth. Though that can be really expensive when you chip your damn hell tooth :( | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, Risky Business, 22. Jul 2003 10:35 | ||
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| The only problem we have is when they rip the dollars from your mouth and you get a paper cut on your lip. Oooh those smart! I was told that happens, I wouldn't know......... : l on 22. Jul 2003 10:07 stdioh wrote: > You poor americans without $2 coins. Tipping a stripper is so much more fun when you can lie on stage > with a toonie in your teeth. Though that can be really expensive when you chip your damn hell tooth :( | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, Reddog214, 22. Jul 2003 02:43 | ||
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| Even more interesting....At the WSOP this year, every time he had a chance, he was out in the hall having a smoke. Was a running joke, they always had to call him in when it was his time to bet on the new hand. | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, 4 POKER, 22. Jul 2003 06:57 | ||
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| on 21. Jul 2003 16:31 greg wrote: > anyone ever notice that Scotty is almost always drinking a beer at the table? i > thought it was a cardinal rule to not drink alcohol while playing poker. what do > you guys think about this? The bottom line is, Scotty drinks while he plays poker, and so does Layne Flack for that matter.....but whatever somebody else may do, (no matter who they are),...we all know that if you start adding alcohol to something that requires *all* of your focus, concentration, and all of your skills...whether it be poker or any other function.....your own abilities that you may possessed for that skill, would surely diminish and that's all there is to it. But in all fairness to Scotty, he may just be nursing the same beer throughout the entire tournament....I don't know...but common sense should tell you that if you started depending on that drink, or 2 drinks or 3 drinks....than that would be a very bad thing for anyone. There's absolutely *nothing* wrong with having a drink sometimes, but who in their right mind would drink on the job and expect to show anything less than poor results. There's a time and a place for everything, but there is never a time to get boozed up at the poker table if you plan on taking it seriously for years to come. That's my .02 4 POKER | ||
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| On that note..., Paintballgirl, 22. Jul 2003 07:37 | ||
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| I once knew a guy who smoked weed every time he went out to play paintball. Now paintball is a game in which you need to be in tune with your surroundings and aware of what other people are doing. He actually played quite well while stoned and explained to me that he had ADD and the world went by too fast if he wasn't stoned. While under the influence, balls (travelling at 300 feet per second) actually slowed down and he could avoid them and he just saw situations much more clearly. A true stoner's answer, but still I think there are people whose body chemistry operates on a different wavelength than everyone else. Is it at all possible that Layne and Scotty are just using the alcohol to "project" an image of themselves- like it's an acting prop? | ||
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| Re: On that note..., MozMan, 22. Jul 2003 08:04 | ||
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| on 22. Jul 2003 07:37 Paintballgirl wrote: > > Is it at all possible that Layne and Scotty are just using the alcohol to "project" an > image of themselves- like it's an acting prop? I dont' know those guys other than what I've seen on TV, but this is exactly what I suspect. I think they both enjoy an adult beverage, and keep one at their sides for two reasons: 1- because they like it, and 2- because it's part of the image, and they are hoping that their opponents will think they are softening up as the night goes on. -Moz "May your chips never fall from a cow." | ||
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| Re: On that note..., 4 POKER, 22. Jul 2003 08:11 | ||
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| Actually, it's not an image for Layne Flack. I have seen him many, many times in the cardrooms and he is *always* drinking in excess to the point where he's in a totally different state. I can't say the same for Scotty because I have only seen him a few times, and for him it might just be a one beer thing that he likes to keep in front of him, but it's just not that way for Layne. And it doesn't even matter what they do....drinking in excess at the poker table is bad, bad, bad. | ||
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| Re: On that note..., Guru, 22. Jul 2003 09:14 | ||
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| In reference to Layne flack, he was clearing buzzing during his showdown with Jerry Buss on WPT. I get the feeling he does drink a lot at the table. I'm not sure I like the guy, but I'd hate to see someone of his talent at the poker table start throwing away a career to alchohol. | ||
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| Re: On that note..., MozMan, 22. Jul 2003 09:18 | ||
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| Funny, I noticed that too, but I honestly thought that he just wasn't taking the whole thing seriously at that point because of the type of event, and because he had such a tremendous chip lead over weak competition. After reading what I've read here, tho, it seems apparent that he likes to imbibe a lot at the tables. -Moz "May your chips never fall from a cow." | ||
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| Re: On that note..., noiseboy, 22. Jul 2003 08:46 | ||
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| lol, My best friend from high school & I used to play a lot of chess. It was funny because we'd play a few games and I'd be killing him. Then he'd go smoke a bowl (I never touch the stuff because I'm spacey to start out with). Anyway, he played a million times better after that and would usually win most of the games after that. It used to frustrate me to no end! | ||
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| Re: On that note..., Keyser Soze, 22. Jul 2003 09:44 | ||
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| Is it possible that the small amounts of alcohol allow them to loosen up, talk the talk a bit more, and take some of a nervous edge off?? Just a guess here, as I do not know either man. As to the weed thing, it does have the tendency to allow SOME people to better concentrate on only 1 thing, hence the ADD ref. Neither is a good idea for MOST at the tables. I have done extensive research :) :) | ||
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| Re: On that note..., stdioh, 22. Jul 2003 10:09 | ||
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| Possible. I've known people who will drink 5 glasses of white grape juice from a wine glass while at the table. | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, stdioh, 22. Jul 2003 10:05 | ||
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| It is a cardinal rule which some players thumb their noses at. Just like Harrold Schnepps played hockey without a helmet for his entire career and just like "The Prince" Ali, the boxer boxes with his hands by his waist, it is a rule that generally shouldn't be broken except by exceptional people who know they can break it without damaging their games. | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, Frank Grimes, 22. Jul 2003 10:38 | ||
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| I have to admit, I never expected to see a Harold Snepsts reference on UPF! | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, stdioh, 22. Jul 2003 17:04 | ||
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| Is that how you spell it? I don't think I ever saw his name in print. | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, MozMan, 22. Jul 2003 10:58 | ||
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| I will tend to agree here. There is also the factor that some learned skills cannot be applied unless you are in the state in which you learned them. If I had never played a hand of poker without some alcohol in my system, my game would likely suffer any time I tried to play sober. As it is, I have never played WITH any alcohol in my system, so I will not chance a drink at the table. -Moz "May your chips never fall from a cow." | ||
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| Re: Scotty Nguyen, stdioh, 22. Jul 2003 17:05 | ||
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| Reminds me of Kingpin. "Have you been drinking?" "No. I don't puke when I drink; I puke when I don't." | ||
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